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Re: Interesting. (Reply to this comment)
by roheblius
You of all people believe in kharma? That's rather poetic itself.
Watch out for lightning if that's the case.
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Oct 18 '08
9:13 am PDT
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I'm still waiting on that proof. :) (Reply to this comment)
by ddustyrose
Thank you.
I forgot to mention the word divorce did not come into this poem until this other person thought the poem was about him. After several comments, I wanted to clearify the reason for my poem so this person wouldn't think I was writing about him
Divoce is a personal matter. It hurts everyone. It saddened me I couldn't work through my own divorce without feeling forced to bring the issue up.
Believe me, it was no my choice.
Best Regards,
Dusty
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Oct 17 '08
8:19 am PDT
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I'm still waiting on that proof. :) (Reply to this comment)
by ginzo
We are ALL allowed to make mistakes,we just have to remember,WE made them or allowed them to happen,making us a good part of the problem of our misery.
I'm so glad people empower themselves to change them.Some don't.Some eventually
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Oct 17 '08
6:18 am PDT
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I'm still waiting on that proof. :) (Reply to this comment)
by ginzo
Yes,twice again i have continued to agree.After all,I've written personal stuff here myself. I just don't think "divorces" are for Epinions "PERSONALLY".
I understand FULLY she is allowed to vent her one side.
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Oct 17 '08
6:13 am PDT
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I'm still waiting on that proof. :) (Reply to this comment)
by ddustyrose
Hey Ginzo,
You said, I PERSONALLY don't think epinions is the place for divorce rants.
I wanted to address this.
1) I wrote a poem venting some of my misery and home life.
2) No names were written and if you read the poem, nowhere did I rant on my divorce or mention it, or about divorce at all. My husband wasn't mentioned by name, even though he was the center of it.
3) Stories and poems are another part of Epinions where people can write about whatever they want. They garner no revenue.
4) I never expected anyone to really read it.
5) I'm not a good writer.
6) I was jumped over this poem by someone here at Epinions who had the nerve to think I was writing about him. Beats the heck out of me why he thought he was important enough for me to consider in my "real" life.
7) Trolls were something I'd never had the "great honor" of coming in contact with. Some people don't understand that when life is hard for us at home, it does help to write something that helps us cope. That's all I was doing.
Anyway, I posted something of an update on how my life is so much better now.
I doubt I'll be posting any more poems or short stories. I wouldn't want to depress people, invite trolls, make people feel good, make people laugh, or "feel" in any way.
No wait! I take that back. :) I bloody well will continue to write, and anyone out there who wishes to comment, please feel free.
My best to you, ginzo, and happy voting!
Dusty
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Oct 16 '08
4:55 pm PDT
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I can happily give an update (Reply to this comment)
by ddustyrose
on my divorce and possible answer some questions.
No one truly knows what goes on in a marriage. There are two sides to every story and I can only speak for mine.
My oldest daughter (melissasrn) could verify how things were in my marriage...how her Dad was. She was one of my children who suffered but having her post something here is not what I want.
My ex-husband had some home truth's pointed out to him and said he knew his actions and words were wrong. This shocked us all as he's always sworn he knows it all, would make a great king of an island, wanted full control of our feelings, lives, who we voted for, how we were supposed to do things, how we needed to change to suit him, etc....the list is a long one.
For an educated man, he went overboard. He couldn't seem to stop himself from destroying what he "said" he loved. His words, not mine.
He did step up to the plate, apologized to me more than once and called all three of his children and apologized to them.
The relationship I have with him today is much better. We do talk on the phone from time to time. However, the relationship he has with his children isn't all that great. They love him but find it easier to stay away. He did apologize but the damage was great...you can't forget your childhood or your adult hood...how you were treated.
There are times when I feel guilty for not getting out sooner than I did...at the emotional damage my children suffered. I don't know how I managed it but I wound up with 3 great kids.
No one but my kids know about the depression I suffered right after Christmas. Those details are not for public display.
My divoce was final on April 29th. We went to my lawyer's office and signed the papers and then he asked me if I wanted to go out and eat lunch? I said, "Sure!" We actully had a good lunch and talked quite a bit.
No, I won't be going back to him. I won't go through that again. Besides, my alimony is great! :)
My life is good now. I live close to my oldest daughter. She's been a God send to me and just being around the grandkids has put the old spark back in life.
Bottom Line (LOL): There's fun, laughs, and good times in my life and I intend to enjoy every minute.
I don't think my ex is as happy. He lives with regret in a big house, alone, and rather lonely.
Do I feel bad about that? Sometimes, but after 30 some odd years of abuse, I'm human enough to feel glad he's lost it all. If you love something, you value it, you treasure it, you don't abuse it.
So, while this is mostly my "side" of things, trust me, my husband would be the first to say he threw away the best thing(s) in his life.
Dusty
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Oct 16 '08
4:38 pm PDT
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I'm still waiting on that proof. :) (Reply to this comment)
by lyoness913
Ginz-
Maybe so, but I don't know 'the man' and Dusty is my friend. So, I tend to be happy for her.
=o)
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Oct 16 '08
10:58 am PDT
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I'm still waiting on that proof. :) (Reply to this comment)
by ginzo
1. I can't stand obama or the democratic congress that has ruined this country for the last 4 years
2. Again,Yes,"congratulations on your divorce! "
Don't know much else about it but what people CHOOSE to write. The man of the divorce just may be in his glory as well
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Oct 16 '08
8:54 am PDT
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I'm still waiting on that proof. :) (Reply to this comment)
by lyoness913
Hey Ginz-
Chill out Bud- go drink a beer eh ;) Dusty has been through hell and back and there is nothing wrong with a little 'celebration.' I know when I got divorced, I was happy-go-lucky. I was even happier when I got my 'settlement.' Heh.
Good to see you out and about though. Wondering what your thoughts are on Obama/McCain. Shoot me an email sometime.
Summer
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Oct 16 '08
7:28 am PDT
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I'm still waiting on that proof. :) (Reply to this comment)
by ginzo
Yes,"congratulations on your divorce! "
But NO ONE here can say they know what the truth is.
Only the husband and wife know what the facts are.
I PERSONALLY don't think epinions is the place for divorce rants.
Good God
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Oct 15 '08
8:37 am PDT
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Re: This is being discussed on another site (Reply to this comment)
by ddustyrose
Thanks, Bonnie.
Pinn leads such a boring life he can't move beyond something that had nothing whatsoever to do with him. He's a sad and pathetic human being who is full of nothing but self pity.
Truthfully, I'm amazed he's still in a tirade over this and is still whining.
My divorce is final and I've moved on. Pinn needs to get out of my life and find one for himself but then again, that's not his style.
Your link gave me a good laugh today! :)
Dusty
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May 13 '08
9:00 pm PDT
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This is being discussed on another site (Reply to this comment)
by bonniesayers
http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.jsp?articleId=281474977140377
Bonnie
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May 10 '08
4:01 pm PDT
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Re: Re: apologise. (Reply to this comment)
by louisdrinkingt
Dusty,
le utt..le utt = slowly, slowly
lou
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Oct 15 '07
12:29 pm PDT
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Re: apologise. (Reply to this comment)
by ddustyrose
Lou,
Todah, chaver sheh lee
And Lou....
Yom tov lecha. Unny besayder. Samayach? In time...in time. :)
Lehitraot.
Dusty
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Oct 15 '07
10:51 am PDT
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apologise. (Reply to this comment)
by louisdrinkingt
By a stupid error twice, I stumbled on the movie on tv called "War of the worlds"..
How absolutely boring when comparing with these comments about... "War of the words".
Dusty when the dust will settle..
many of these commenters will apologise to you.
SO..stay cool to stay calm...and enjoy the sun and nature..
and your best new decision.
Akoll besayder.
lou.
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Oct 15 '07
9:03 am PDT
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I'm still waiting on that proof. :) (Reply to this comment)
by ginzo
Do I ever!
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Oct 15 '07
7:04 am PDT
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I'm still waiting on that proof. :) (Reply to this comment)
by roheblius
And you are absolutely not helping yourself.
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Oct 14 '07
9:37 am PDT
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I'm still waiting on that proof. :) (Reply to this comment)
by ginzo
Does it ever!
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Oct 14 '07
9:14 am PDT
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Re: Re: Re: Re: I'm still waiting on that proof. :) (Reply to this comment)
by roheblius
Things have happened on this site recently as a result of members not being able to get along. Let's not get pulled into that again.
This comment thread looks just as childish as it did just a week ago. Can we move on?
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Oct 13 '07
8:13 am PDT
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Re: Re: Re: I'm still waiting on that proof. :) (Reply to this comment)
by Penguinlady
No need for groupie emails,just say it.
Not sure what you mean by "groupie e-mails" - I am offering the procedure to anyone who asks me for it, which includes MZ. Hardly a groupie thing. And it's just a teench more complicated than just putting people on your block list, I think.
Margaret
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Oct 12 '07
8:30 pm PDT
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Re: Re: Interesting. (Reply to this comment)
by milena_zepeda
"I don't care in the least what Pinn thinks about my poem."
Oh, Dusty, that is too funny! Thanks for the morning chuckle.
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Oct 12 '07
10:31 am PDT
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Re: Re: I'm still waiting on that proof. :) (Reply to this comment)
by ginzo
(GROAN)
Once again ...it's no big secret
If you put the suspected revenge rater on your block list,the hidden rating should disappear.
That's how you find out who hidden revenge rates.
No need for groupie emails,just say it.
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Oct 12 '07
10:00 am PDT
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Re: Re: Re: Re: I'm still waiting on that proof. :) (Reply to this comment)
by dimeuhday
Mark has been positively identified? But I dont get why you think Mark is Pinn?
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Oct 12 '07
9:56 am PDT
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I'm still waiting on that proof. :) (Reply to this comment)
by ddustyrose
I wonder what his next name will be...
;)
Summer
Can I guess? Huh? Huh? :)
Iago Maniac....with the Maniac being pronounced as Man-eye-ack!
Dusty
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Oct 11 '07
9:06 pm PDT
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: BTW: (Reply to this comment)
by ddustyrose
Dusty, your comments earlier, "It's my desire we continue on with our lives and keep things on a more normal level. I, for one, am eager to enjoy a more peaceful EpinionLand and let wounds heal," were lovely thoughts. I hope you're doing well at this difficult time.
Don :)
Thanks Don! The big day is almost here. :)
Dusty
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Oct 11 '07
9:00 pm PDT
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Re: Re: Re: BTW: (Reply to this comment)
by ddustyrose
Hi Alex,
These were quite informative.
And to think my definition of a troll was a cruel monster who ate human flesh, had little or no intelligence, were stumpy, misshapen, humpbacked, inclined to thieving, had big noses, long arms and were hairy!
Aren't female troll's called an ogress, or are they trollettes?
Dusty
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Oct 11 '07
8:55 pm PDT
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Re: Interesting. (Reply to this comment)
by ddustyrose
MZ says: Why in the world would he even bother to revenge rate you, Dusty? He already told you what he thought of your poem.
MZ, I did not say he revenge rated me. Please re-read my comment. I was asking how to find out the identity of a person who could keep their ratings hidden (as there seemed to be a way)? I did have one (now two) of these hidden ratings.
What kind of person would rate and hide their identity?
No need to answer as I already know.
As for what Pinn said about my poem...his original comment was he thought it was about him. I informed him he was wrong. He decided what my poem was about and to him, that was the end of it.
I could have talked until I was blue in the face but it would not have mattered.
Pinn continued flying by the seat of his britches with unfounded, unproven, and quite odious comments to the point his nose was found lying in a dung heap.
I don't care in the least what Pinn thinks about my poem.
I've been enlightened (thanks guys) as to the true meaning of a troll.
Didn't I read somewhere that trolls were otiose? Don't bother looking it up as it means lazy and unproductive.
Dusty
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Oct 11 '07
8:37 pm PDT
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Re: Correction, please. (Reply to this comment)
by milena_zepeda
LOL! Lammet, a lot of writers use pen names. A lot of members use usernames. So what? You have proven nothing. The rest of your words are just wishful thinking, as well.
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Oct 11 '07
7:55 pm PDT
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Correction, please. (Reply to this comment)
by lammet
MZ: The man that you all loathe so much chooses to delete his account from this site
No he don't. He lied to you. The decision was forced on him.
MZ: In case anyone is wondering, the man that so many of these people loathe is named William Pinn
No he's not. He lied to you. His name is Gary Jackson. William Pinn is an alias, as is probably Mark Campbell. Typical behaviour of shady characters.
MZ: BTW: He had a choice as to whether to leave or stay. He CHOSE to leave. I wonder why? LMAO
You can laugh all you want, even ROTFLYAS, as your idol ceaselessly did (this way you'll at least have your floors clean, seeing as there's not much else to have clean). But he had no choice. He wanted so much to stay he threatened epinions and members alike with litigation if he wasn't brought back in. They wouldn't listen dear. THEY chose for him to leave.
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Oct 11 '07
6:00 pm PDT
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I'm still waiting on that proof. :) (Reply to this comment)
by Penguinlady
Stop shrieking, Milena.
If you want to know how to identify hidden raters, e-mail me and I'll be glad to send you the instructions, as I have done with other members. Or you can go digging through Mobi-Prof's encyclopedic offerings yourself and find it, as I did.
Margaret
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Oct 11 '07
2:54 pm PDT
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Re: Re: Re: Re: I'm still waiting on that proof. :) (Reply to this comment)
by lyoness913
Margaret,
I noticed that all of Pinn's comments to me as Mark_Campbell (the ones I showed you about how I need to take 'constructive criticism, etc) have been erased. Pinn is really covering his tracks! I'll bet his jaw dropped when you called out his second identity! LOL! I guess he can blame me for ratting him out!! I wonder what his next name will be...
;)
Summer
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Oct 11 '07
2:53 pm PDT
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Re: Re: Re: Re: I'm still waiting on that proof. :) (Reply to this comment)
by milena_zepeda
"Such a koinkydink..."
Yeah - which means it is not a fact. PROVE that he has been identified! PROVE IT!
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Oct 11 '07
2:09 pm PDT
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Re: Re: Re: I'm still waiting on that proof. :) (Reply to this comment)
by Penguinlady
It could very well just be a random rate though? Right?
Wrong. You haven't been paying attention. There is a way to positively identify hidden raters.
I mean I am sure Pinn is not the only person on this site who has left a lower than VH rate right?
Not on my reviews, no. And probably not on some of the others in question here. And it's not about "lower than VH." It's about a HIDDEN (but easily identifiable) NH. Big difference.
I don't think that every NH you or anyone else receieves from here on out should be blamed on him.
Never got one before he showed up. And I'd venture a guess that the other people involved never did either. Such a koinkydink...
I didn't check, does this Mark have an email addie? You could email him and ask why he left a NH...
The kind of peopple who hide behind hidden ratings aren't likely to acknowledge them when asked directly.
Read my lips:
HE
HAS
BEEN
POSITIVELY
IDENTIFIED
AS
THE
PERSON
WHO
LEFT
THE
HIDDEN
NH
RATINGS.
Margaret
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Oct 11 '07
1:01 pm PDT
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Re: Re: Re: I'm still waiting on that proof. :) (Reply to this comment)
by milena_zepeda
Good point, Melissa! And since it is obviously just Margaret's opinion that William Pinn is Mark Campbell, then it appears that it is not actually a fact. Interesting, huh?
Also, since Epinions has privacy rights, no one in a position of power would be able to legally reveal what type of interaction that William Pinn had with the management of Epinions. Therefore, that renders her second statement as rumor, or her opinion, which again, does not make it a fact.
So be sure you have your facts straight next time you try to defame and humiliate a person, Margaret.
Oh - fact number three: I am certainly not the only person here that likes William Pinn.
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Oct 11 '07
11:51 am PDT
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Re: Re: I'm still waiting on that proof. :) (Reply to this comment)
by dimeuhday
It could very well just be a random rate though? Right?
I mean I am sure Pinn is not the only person on this site who has left a lower than VH rate right?
I don't think that every NH you or anyone else receieves from here on out should be blamed on him.
I didn't check, does this Mark have an email addie? You could email him and ask why he left a NH... if not... one may never know, but one should not accuse.
I know the possibility of such things remains in everyones thoughts though, but perhaps some of us over think ratings we recieve?
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Oct 11 '07
11:33 am PDT
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Re: Re: I'm still waiting on that proof. :) (Reply to this comment)
by milena_zepeda
More directly - how is that considered to be proof that William Pinn is also Mark Campbell? I would really like to know.
Oh - and did you not get upset by WP's honest and helpful comments that he had left on on some of your friend's reviews?
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Oct 11 '07
11:30 am PDT
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Re: Re: I'm still waiting on that proof. :) (Reply to this comment)
by milena_zepeda
And how is that considered proof of a fact, Margaret?
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Oct 11 '07
11:18 am PDT
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Re: I'm still waiting on that proof. :) (Reply to this comment)
by Penguinlady
His recent ratings on my reviews were hidden NHs.
And to the best of my knowledge, other than to tell me to keep up the good work, he has not left comments on my reviews.
Margaret
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Oct 11 '07
11:04 am PDT
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I'm still waiting on that proof. :) (Reply to this comment)
by milena_zepeda
Where is the proof that Mark Campbell is William Pinn? May I also point out that when WP rated you openly and honestly and left comments explaining his reasons, that's when you blew a gasket, Margaret. I think that people here are just too vain to accept the fact that they can't please everyone, so they make up conspiracy theories to throw everyone off course.
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Oct 11 '07
9:14 am PDT
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Re: Re: Re: Re: BTW: (Reply to this comment)
by Don_Krider
ginzo wrote: If you put the suspected revenge rater on your block list,the hidden rating should disappear.
That's how you find out who hidden revenge rates
For anyone interested, Mobiprof explained how to find a "hidden" rater in great detail in a review called "Raiders Of The Lost Rating: Revealing Their Ratings" at http://www.epinions.com/content_3652821124 .
Alex, those were fascinating links, amigo.
Dusty, your comments earlier, "It's my desire we continue on with our lives and keep things on a more normal level. I, for one, am eager to enjoy a more peaceful EpinionLand and let wounds heal," were lovely thoughts. I hope you're doing well at this difficult time.
Don :)
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Oct 11 '07
8:50 am PDT
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Re: Re: Re: Re: BTW: (Reply to this comment)
by milena_zepeda
BTW: He had a choice as to whether to leave or stay. He CHOSE to leave. I wonder why? LMAO.
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Oct 11 '07
8:24 am PDT
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: BTW: (Reply to this comment)
by milena_zepeda
I mean, if it's a fact that he is Mark Campbell, lets see the proof. I'd also like to see the proof that he was asked to leave. Show me. Come on.
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Oct 11 '07
8:18 am PDT
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: BTW: (Reply to this comment)
by milena_zepeda
Yeah. That's a good question, Melissa. :) Nice to see you here, BTW!
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Oct 11 '07
8:17 am PDT
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Re: Re: Re: Re: BTW: (Reply to this comment)
by dimeuhday
How do you figure that he is Mark Campbell?
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Oct 11 '07
8:15 am PDT
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Re: Re: Re: Re: BTW: (Reply to this comment)
by milena_zepeda
Thanks, Ginzo. I appreciate the info. I wasn't actually going to email Margaret, though. LOL.
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Oct 11 '07
8:12 am PDT
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Re: Re: Re: Re: BTW: (Reply to this comment)
by milena_zepeda
Whatever, Margaret. The only part of your message that is fact is the third statement.
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Oct 11 '07
8:11 am PDT
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Re: Re: Re: BTW: (Reply to this comment)
by ginzo
If you put the suspected revenge rater on your block list,the hidden rating should disappear.
That's how you find out who hidden revenge rates.
No need for groupie emails,just say it.
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Oct 11 '07
7:47 am PDT
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Re: Re: Re: BTW: (Reply to this comment)
by Penguinlady
Nothing I said in that comment, except for the last bit, was opinion:
- Pinn has a duplicate account, Mark_Campbell,
- he got asked to leave the site, and
- there's a way to identify hidden raters.
Those are all facts.
There is a difference between opinion and fact.
Margaret
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Oct 11 '07
7:46 am PDT
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Re: Re: BTW: (Reply to this comment)
by milena_zepeda
Your opinions mean as much to me as mine mean to you, Margaret. :)
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Oct 11 '07
6:07 am PDT
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Re: Re: Re: BTW: (Reply to this comment)
by milena_zepeda
Oh, Alex! You are just THE man, you know that?
;)
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Oct 11 '07
6:04 am PDT
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Re: Re: BTW: (Reply to this comment)
by milena_zepeda
OH! That's right, because you are in the bubble that is Epinions. I almost forgot! Far be it from me to burst YOUR bubble! LOL.
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Oct 11 '07
6:03 am PDT
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Re: BTW: (Reply to this comment)
by Penguinlady
In case anyone is wondering, the man that so many of these people loathe is named William Pinn and the article that he wrote is entitled Epinions Deserves a Ticket for Gross Stupidity.
He is SO RIGHT!
But he's been thrown off the site and his account has been deleted, so I guess we won't get to read his article, will we?
Margaret
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Oct 10 '07
10:15 pm PDT
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Re: Interesting. (Reply to this comment)
by Penguinlady
The man that you all loathe so much chooses to delete his account from this site,
Actually, he was thrown off the site. But his duplicate account, Mark_Campbell, remains, in violation of the Epinions TOS.
...goes on to write an awesomely accurate and true article about this truly loathesome place,
So why are you here, if it's so loathesome?
and because you get a couple of hidden revenge raters, you are just so sure that it is him.
Neither you nor your guy seem to realize that there is a way to determine who left hidden ratings. If you want to know how it works, e-mail me and I'll be glad to share it with you, so you can also see who is leaving those hidden ratings.
You know he can't stand you, either. Maybe he had some people here that liked him. Did you ever think of that?
Of course. We know that. You're it.
I've never had any problems with other members, in almost eight years here. There are people I don't like, and I know there are people who probably don't like me. And we are content to let that be. Your Pinn is the first one in my experience here who feels the compulsion to harass and stalk and down-rate the people he doesn't like.
Just my opinion, for what it's worth. :)
Not much.
I have no problem with people who don't like me or people who don't like my writing. I welcome their comments and civil discussion. I most definitely DO have a problem with people who harass and stalk people here for no reason other than that they doesn't like what they say.
As soon as your Pinn starts leaving visible ratings instead of hiding behind hidden ones, and states clearly why he's doing so, we'll "get over" it, as you so quaintly put it. Until then, hidden revenge raters are fodder for comments.
Margaret
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Oct 10 '07
10:13 pm PDT
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BTW: (Reply to this comment)
by milena_zepeda
In case anyone is wondering, the man that so many of these people loathe is named William Pinn and the article that he wrote is entitled Epinions Deserves a Ticket for Gross Stupidity.
He is SO RIGHT!
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Oct 10 '07
5:21 pm PDT
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Interesting. (Reply to this comment)
by milena_zepeda
The man that you all loathe so much chooses to delete his account from this site, goes on to write an awesomely accurate and true article about this truly loathesome place, which just happens to be on the number one page when you Google Epinions.com, and because you get a couple of hidden revenge raters, you are just so sure that it is him.
Why in the world would he even bother to revenge rate you, Dusty? He already told you what he thought of your poem. Why would he bother with you, Margaret? You know he can't stand you, either. Maybe he had some people here that liked him. Did you ever think of that? Maybe there are people that don't like some of you for their very own reasons that have nothing to do with the one that you all cannot seem to get over. That does seem highly plausible to me.
Just my opinion, for what it's worth. :)
MZ
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Oct 10 '07
5:16 pm PDT
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Re: Re: Re: What the....? (Reply to this comment)
by ddustyrose
Margaret,
Could you email me and let me know HOW you can find this out as I, too, have one of these ratings? :)
And thanks.
Dusty
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Oct 10 '07
1:57 pm PDT
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Re: Re: What the....? (Reply to this comment)
by Penguinlady
Don't cheer too fast - he's not gone yet. He has a duplicate account and used it to revenge-rate one of my reviews with an NH. I guess he doesn't know that there's a way to identify hidden raters.
Margaret
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Oct 10 '07
9:14 am PDT
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Re: What the....? (Reply to this comment)
by ddustyrose
Thanks John.
I do hate to see AC saddled with his kind...it is indeed sad, but when the garbage was taken out, things smelled much fresher on this side of the fence. :)
Dusty
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Oct 09 '07
6:08 pm PDT
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What the....? (Reply to this comment)
by Bruguru
Dusty, sorry you had to go through this. This is a tough enough time for you as it is, I'm sure. Pinn has now run off to Associated Content and published an anti-Epinions diatribe there.
Sad, sad, sad.
Regards,
John
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Oct 09 '07
3:44 am PDT
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Re: I decided (Reply to this comment)
by ginzo
The question is,"What do you find wrong with my helpful rating? Am I not entitled to my epinion?
What is so insulting that it needs to be questioned? Do you not state that it is for your own pleasure and ratings mean nothing? Geesh!
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Oct 08 '07
10:50 am PDT
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I decided (Reply to this comment)
by ddustyrose
to remove my comment and question "I noticed you rated Disorder as Helpful. What could I have done to improve it? to Ginzo.
The reason being.....this is a poem, no revenue to be gained, and I can write my poetry to suit myself.
Dusty
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Oct 08 '07
6:56 am PDT
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Re: Re: Pinn is gone (Reply to this comment)
by ddustyrose
Huh?
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Oct 06 '07
8:29 pm PDT
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Re: Re: Friends (Reply to this comment)
by ddustyrose
Framing it does sound like a good idea. In fact, a very good idea. :)
Dusty
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Oct 06 '07
8:29 pm PDT
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Re: Re: Friends (Reply to this comment)
by ddustyrose
You're welcome David. :)
Dusty
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Oct 06 '07
8:28 pm PDT
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Re: Re: Pinn is gone (Reply to this comment)
by Penguinlady
take care of the ridiculous,idiotic left.Known as the loud and obnoxious minority
What are you talking about?
Margaret
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Oct 06 '07
4:43 pm PDT
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Re: Pinn is gone (Reply to this comment)
by ginzo
And Pinn,the good man,will be back to take care of the ridiculous,idiotic left.Known as the loud and obnoxious minority.
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Oct 06 '07
10:10 am PDT
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Re: Friends (Reply to this comment)
by dimeuhday
That really was a beautiful poem. It belongs in a frame I must say. I want to print it up for my cuz. I loved it.
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Oct 05 '07
11:10 am PDT
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Re: Friends (Reply to this comment)
by davidp24
Dusty, that is one of the most beautiful poems that I have ever read. Thanks for sharing it with us.
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Oct 05 '07
5:19 am PDT
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Friends (Reply to this comment)
by ddustyrose
It's my desire we continue on with our lives and keep things on a more normal level. I, for one, am eager to enjoy a more peaceful EpinionLand and let wounds heal. There may be more wounds in the future needing attention….
We need each other, we need peace, and above all we need to count our blessings.
I read a poem today by Helen Steiner Rice I wished to share with you. I hope you enjoy it as much as I did.
Not by Chance or Happenstance
Into our lives come many things
to break the dull routine
The things we had not planned on
that happen unforeseen,
The unexpected little joys
that are scattered on our way,
Success we did not count on
or a rare, fulfilling day—
A catchy, lilting melody
that makes us want to dance,
A nameless exaltation
of enchantment and romance—
An unsought word of kindness,
a compliment or two
That sets the eyes to gleaming
like crystal drops of dew—
The unplanned sudden meeting
that comes with sweet surprise
And lights the heart with happiness
like a rainbow in the skies…
Now some folks call it fickle fate
and some folks call it chance,
While others just accept it
as pleasant happenstance—
But no matter what you call it
it didn’t come without design,
For all our lives are fashioned
by the HAND THAT IS DIVINE--
And every happy happening
and every lucky break
Are little gifts from God above
that are ours to freely take.
Thank you for your priceless gift(s) of love and friendship!
Dusty
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Oct 04 '07
8:21 pm PDT
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Re: Re: Re: Re: dimeuhday (Reply to this comment)
by milena_zepeda
You are certainly entitled to your opinion, Lyoness913, as we all are in this world. :)
MZ
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Oct 04 '07
3:07 pm PDT
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Re: Re: Re: dimeuhday (Reply to this comment)
by lyoness913
From lammet: that bad things are bound to happen when one is not careful with one’s company.
Exactly.
I am not going to start a big huge war and this is the ONLY thing I am going to say, but how ANYONE can 'defend' someone who says THIS:
From Williampinn: my so-called inflammatory comments do not hold a candle to yours or the horrible poem Dusty wrote about her poor sweet husband--who is really a decent man. Why on earth would Dusty marry a man who is as evil as the one she writes about? Additionally, it is obvious to anyone who has "eyes and a brain" that Dusty's poem is completely self-centered and self-serving. She has no concept that her husband is a human being with feelings. Is it any wonder she's getting a divorce? She will continue to suffer as long as she remains a child.
is BEYOND me.
I just don't get it. This is the most cruel thing I've ever seen on any web site and I just don't understand how someone could be so horribly downright evil.
That's all I have to say about this matter, and NOTHING will make me change my mind.
Summer
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Oct 04 '07
2:53 pm PDT
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Re: Re: dimeuhday (Reply to this comment)
by lammet
David,
Your explanations to Dusty makes it clear to me that you, like Melissa, were a victim of circumstances. I apologise for having credited you with ulterior motives. Having said that, I would like to point out, if I may, that bad things are bound to happen when one is not careful with one’s company.
Sincerely,
-Vasilis
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Oct 04 '07
1:52 pm PDT
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Thank you Dime. (Reply to this comment)
by dianapinions
You know we are on the same page here. Let's move on. Like Melissa said.
Peace to ALL.
Diana
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Oct 04 '07
10:47 am PDT
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Re: dimeuhday (Reply to this comment)
by davidp24
lammet, please see my previous comment.
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Oct 04 '07
10:18 am PDT
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Re: I want (Reply to this comment)
by davidp24
Hi Dusty! First of all, I wasn't even aware of any marital problems you may have been having. I am truly sorry about that. I supported William on what I perceived to be taunts from smorg and criteeker. Since he is a good friend, my support was in regards to a friend being verbally attacked. Since I didn't even know of your misfortune (of which I feel bad about), my support of William had nothing to do with you. I've enjoyed reading some of your reviews in the past. I only wish the best for you. I was shocked to see lammet's remarks towards me - I am just learning of your situation now. It's true that I consider William, Dime, and Milena as friends, but I also think of you as a friend. I hope everything works out for you. I truly do.
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Oct 04 '07
10:15 am PDT
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Re: Pinn is gone (Reply to this comment)
by dimeuhday
We're supposed to be getting along here people...
This comment just adds fuel to the fire. LET IT GO. Making comments like this will only allow a fight to continue.
You don't want that, the community does not want that, so lets cut it out!
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Oct 04 '07
7:53 am PDT
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Re: dimeuhday (Reply to this comment)
by dimeuhday
Thank you... I will now delete my comment, as it may of came out a bit harsh. I appologise for that, and glad we no longer need to bump heads. There is no need for that really.
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Oct 04 '07
7:50 am PDT
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Re: dimeuhday (Reply to this comment)
by dimeuhday
No agenda. I just do not like being accused of wrong doing for being friends with them. I would not call you out if you were on good terms with someone I disliked.
I do want peace though. That is a fact. I want to see everyone getting along...once again; if possible.
If not, I will just steer clear of the site till the sun rises once again.
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Oct 04 '07
7:48 am PDT
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Re: Pinn is gone (Reply to this comment)
by milena_zepeda
"MZ, who will you worship now?"
Since you asked, I'll worship the one I have always worshipped. God in Heaven. The Holy Trinity. The Father. The Son. The Holy Spirit.
Yeah. LAUGH! I am an imperfect Christian. I would like to know who amongst us is perfect? You call me names constantly, Pengiunlady, for defending my friend and what I believe in. Yet everyone is having a little party because one member is ousted for his opinion. I guess the shoe can fit on the other foot, too. I haven't turned you into customer care for all the names you call me all over the site and all the religious insults you throw my way. If I did, maybe nothing would happen. Because you are one of those 'perfect people' whom can do no wrong on this site, no matter how wrong you really are. But maybe something would happen?
You are SO Wrong. Never insult my religious beliefs and never call me names again or I will turn you in for every last comment you have ever made about me. I mean that, Margaret.
MZ, still here.
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Oct 04 '07
7:16 am PDT
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I want (Reply to this comment)
by ddustyrose
to thank everyone for all the support and care given to me at this time. How did a person like me get lucky enough to have friends like you?
I feel like I need to apologize for causing all the "disorder."
I was a real dunderhead....here I am living in my own little world...making a decision that was going to affect the rest of my life was not an easy one....it was a struggle to finally make the choice....not knowing if it was right or wrong but knowing something had to be done. I'm in this world of mine, not thinking about anything but my own problems and I'm literally side-swiped by a train I never saw coming. That train has a name, which will remain nameless.
Many nights I can't sleep...some of you will know that I've been on here late at night talking and talking and talking.
By that I mean, I'd be commenting away somewhere leaving long winded crap-o-la. I'm existing on 4-5 hours of sleep a night...not every night...some nights I get as much as 6 hours!
Some of you have read a few of my gripes...minor compared to what I could have told...so you knew my home life was not easy...wasn't happy. Since I do have an older daughter who writes for Epinions, and reads what I write (thanks Melissa, if you're reading this), there's no way I could, or would, tell the real story.
We all have our problems, and try to deal with them as best as we can. What we choose to do may be the right choice...what we choose to do may be the wrong choice but by sitting by and doing nothing, nothing was going to change.
Melissa said something in one of my comment sections (A Husband and Wife) which really hit home. She said, "If you always do what you always did, you always get what you always got. New actions are required for new results."
Did I dare take new actions and hope to find some happiness in this life before I die? What if they were the wrong actions? Staying and continuing to do what I always did meant I was always going to get what I always got.
Talk about a depressing thought! No, no, no! Right or wrong, some kind of choice had to be made and while I don't know what my tomorrow is going to be like, once that choice was finally made, a huge boulder lifted from my shoulders.
If it's the wrong choice, I have no one to blame but myself. But, if it's the right choice, maybe I'll be able to sleep again. I'll have my life back and room to breathe!
A kind deed is like water for a rose: it makes the heart bloom. Thanks for planting a garden in my heart!
Love with big hugs,
Dusty
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Oct 04 '07
12:33 am PDT
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Re: Re: I'm (Reply to this comment)
by dianapinions
Well, he asked for bread, cake, ribs and beer. Seems like a tall order to me!
Diana
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Oct 03 '07
6:26 pm PDT
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Pinn is gone (Reply to this comment)
by Penguinlady
His account and all his psycho comments have disappeared. MZ, who will you worship now?
And more to the point, what name will he return under?
Margaret
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Oct 03 '07
5:32 pm PDT
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Re: I'm (Reply to this comment)
by lyoness913
Wait a darn minute George. I am one of your most avid readers and yet, you include nothing 'tall' for me. I am six feet tall and quite frankly, I feel left out!
(Sulking)
Summer ;)
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Oct 03 '07
4:29 pm PDT
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I'm (Reply to this comment)
by George_Chabot
planning a party and here's the list: short bread, short ribs, short cake, short beer - is there any thing I'm missing? Oh yeah, short people!
I thought I'd stop by and see if the Shleps would like a few snacks. You must be getting hungry with all the talk. :>
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Oct 03 '07
3:07 pm PDT
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dimeuhday (Reply to this comment)
by lammet
Melissa,
There is no hidden agenda here. I wanted peace, and I was glad to see it being offered.
In retrospect I think you are. But realise that MZ, David and you appearing within the span of 15’ extolling the virtues of yet another transparently vile Pinn comment makes it hard to believe it was all coincidental. The more so when the messiah himself appears shortly after to thank his “true friends”.
I apologise for drawing the wrong conclusion. However, allow me to still doubt your judgment. This world does not turn on good intentions Melissa, it turns on results.
Thank you for your suggestion I apologise to Dusty. Somehow I feel my presence in her back yard has been supportive rather than disruptive.
-Vasilis
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Oct 03 '07
4:59 am PDT
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One more thing: (Reply to this comment)
by dianapinions
I just want to make it clear, that even though my comment just happened to come chronologically after the comment left by Penguinlady, I was not at all addressing this comment to her. My comment was a general one.
Nor was my comment an attempt to chastise anyone for expressing their opinions and thoughts here.
I am simply hoping for a little peace at this great place called Epinions.
Good night,
Diana
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Oct 02 '07
9:45 pm PDT
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Dusty, (Reply to this comment)
by ladyconsumer
My heart goes out to you. I hope you find peace and solice soon.
Mona
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Oct 02 '07
6:47 pm PDT
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ENOUGH! (Reply to this comment)
by dianapinions
My Fellow Epinioners and Friends,
I am asking for this flame war to end right now. All sides. One and all.
Every additional comment just gets everyone all riled up again. Emotions are too high and no one is willing to back down.
Epinions Comment sections must not be reduced to name-calling or finger pointing.
Please see my Message Board thread from today, entitled "For the Sake of Peace at Epinions".
You folks are all so talented and such excellent writers. I'm counting on you all to see the pointlessness of these arguments, in the public comment threads.
Please, friends?
Diana
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Oct 02 '07
3:54 pm PDT
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Unbelievable (Reply to this comment)
by Penguinlady
Pinnhead, Dusty was married to her husband for 30 years. You know nothing about him beyond that fact - not his name, not his behavior, not the way he has treated her. And yet you see fit to insist that he's a poor, sweet men whom she misunderstands and demonizes.
Do you have any idea what a crackpot that makes you look like? I don't suppose it has ever entered your head that perhaps, maybe, possibly, she knows more about him than you do.
Naaah - no one knows more about anything than you do.
Beyond that, of course, you look like the compleat narcissist and egotist, assuming that someone who doesn't know or care about you, and has posted several times about the problems she's having in her marriage, would waste even one nano-second writing a poem about YOU. What on earth could make an even partially sane person think that???
I doubt that you'll ever learn that the world doesn't spin around you, or that you aren't more knowledgeable about everything than anyone else is, or that your constant apologies are meaningless when you keep repeating the same apology-worthy behavior again and again and again, with increasing amounts of evident glee each time. Sociopaths don't learn.
But this is a new low, even for you.
OK, bring on your frantic remora, MZ.
Dusty, I hope you can focus on the people who support you, and ignore the idiots and trouble-makers who see your posts as mere fodder for their sick little games.
Margaret
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Oct 02 '07
2:55 pm PDT
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Re: Oh, dear God. (Reply to this comment)
by Jev04again
I agree with Millinocket. I can't believe that such a cruel, revolting thing could be uttered. It's without base, and the sheer, unmitigated arrogance that came with that nauseating comment is incomprehensible. This is a new low that is absolutely inconceivable.
Dusty, we’re thinking of you and keeping you in our prayers.
Hugs,
- Sunni
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Oct 02 '07
1:38 pm PDT
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Re: Oh, dear God. (Reply to this comment)
by lyoness913
I cannot, in any decent world, imagine how someone could write such malicious and cruel words. The above paragraph is one of the most truly heinous things I've witnessed in over five years on this site. I'm aghast that someone could use the pain of another as a weapon not only apparently without remorse, but with glee in inflicting more pain.
Me either. I am at a loss and I really don't even know what to say, other than I feel sick. Dusty, keep strong, I am thinking of you.
Summer
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Oct 02 '07
12:33 pm PDT
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Oh, dear God. (Reply to this comment)
by millinocket
my so-called inflammatory comments do not hold a candle to yours or the horrible poem Dusty wrote about her poor sweet husband--who is really a decent man. Why on earth would Dusty marry a man who is as evil as the one she writes about? Additionally, it is obvious to anyone who has "eyes and a brain" that Dusty's poem is completely self-centered and self-serving. She has no concept that her husband is a human being with feelings. Is it any wonder she's getting a divorce? She will continue to suffer as long as she remains a child.
I cannot, in any decent world, imagine how someone could write such malicious and cruel words. The above paragraph is one of the most truly heinous things I've witnessed in over five years on this site. I'm aghast that someone could use the pain of another as a weapon not only apparently without remorse, but with glee in inflicting more pain.
What a horrible display of base, vulgar, mindless cruelty.
Dusty, my thoughts are with you and again, I hope that those bent on turning this piece into a circus for their own entertainment do not make you forget that there are people out here who genuinely feel for you and wish you well during this hard time in your life.
Take care - I'll drop you an email rather than post here again. I just didn't want you to think that people were letting such purposely hurtful statements pass unnoticed.
Sue
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Oct 02 '07
11:52 am PDT
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Re: Re: Re: In case others wonder why the comments don't seem to add up (Reply to this comment)
by milena_zepeda
Tell me, Smorg - what type of person does it take to display the degree of malice that YOU have continually shown for WP and myself? Whom is it that is stalking who?
Never mind. That was rhetorical.
MZ, over and out of the Land of Bassackwardness - YAY ME! :)
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Oct 02 '07
8:16 am PDT
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Re: Re: In case others wonder why the comments don't seem to add up (Reply to this comment)
by smorg
WilliamPinn: "Gee, that's funny; I thought I deleted the comment because Dusty seemed to be upset by it. If she feels that her response to my comment makes her look like an "aggressor," she could delete her response comment. However, I'm sure anyone with a little common sense will realize that her comment was a response rather than jump to the conclusion that she drew first blood (quote from Rambo). As a courtesy to Dusty's thread, I moved said comment to WC so she would not have to view it here. Here is the link to the WC piece containing the comment in question:"
The first thing to do when you find yourself in a hole, Pinn, stop digging. Anyone with eyes and a brain can see that you posted your first two comments and that essay on the 28th. You delete your inflammatory comments after Dusty had made her reply, then on the 29th at 1:21AM you posted your condescending comment, repeatedly accusing Dusty of being the party who made rash assumptions while you didn't... I didn't post my response until later that day. So much for the bogus claim of having 'moved' the first comment elsewhere in consideration for her feelings...
And what did you do then, but went running to cry about it on the general message board
( http://www.epinions.com/msg/sec_~forums/show_~threads/cat_id_~121/id_~16822/forum_id_~441/pp_~1/pa_~1#posts )
, where everyone can see that you have no concept of what it means to be man enough to own your own words. Made quite a fool out of yourself, didn't you. What now? Can't find sympathy from Customer Care either?
And to claim to have 'apologized to her via email'.... Uh-huh. Sure... what a gentlemanly thing to do to harass and attack a woman in distress in public and then claim to have apologized to her in private... And then blatantly lying that "The offended member wanted the matter to be private." Oh, really? Who was the first to mention your harassment emails in public? You or Dusty? Who was the one screaming about the fact that you have been harassing her via emails was made public? You or Dusty?
But I forgot, not only do you have no grasp of what 'honor' is, you have never shown yourself to have a good grasp of logic either.
Though I have faith that most people who read these comments are sane and are a lot smarter than you seem to think they are.
And as for MZ being able to forgive her enemies... I feel sympathy for Criteeker rather than for you. Anybody would like to get a glimpse into a mind of a stalking psycho, go and check out the comment session on any of Criteeker's recent reviews (any one of them from June 19th, 2007 on... and note when her comments were posted, will you? It takes a pretty sick person to exhibit that degree of malice). Screen shots taken, of course.... Trolls are known to be prone to wanting to delete evidence of their actions...
Last note, this is in no way the private chat-room of WilliamPinn of MilenaZepeda. I haven't shown up on any of their comment session or rated any of their review for months. Oddly enough, these two can be found spamming and revenge-rating almost all of my reviews since August 14 (screen shots also available upon request)....
Treat of the day.... Have a good laugh at stalkers who accuse others of their own crimes.
Dusty,
Hope your week has started well otherwise, matie. Don't worry about these trolls. We've got your back. Just concentrate on your real problems at home. ;o)
Cheers,
Smorg
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Oct 02 '07
12:23 am PDT
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Re: davidp24 and dimeuhday (Reply to this comment)
by milena_zepeda
Oh - and let's not forget the name calling.
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Oct 01 '07
8:17 pm PDT
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Re: davidp24 and dimeuhday (Reply to this comment)
by milena_zepeda
Is it as cruel as stalking my friend and I and posting screen shots of deleted comments and encouraging people to post private emails in a public forum - THIS very forum, in fact?
MZ
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Oct 01 '07
8:15 pm PDT
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davidp24 and dimeuhday (Reply to this comment)
by lammet
I am aghast that you saw fit to express your support to a friend at the very same place where he exhibited blatant indifference toward a member's time of testing. Your show of "support" only adds to the aggravation your friend already created for Dusty. You people descending here to have fun is beyond irresponsible. It is shockingly cruel. Please remove me from your WoT.
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Oct 01 '07
6:49 pm PDT
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Re: Thanks my true friends. (Reply to this comment)
by milena_zepeda
Same here, WP. I forgive my enemies. I'm not apologizing, mind you. I just forgive them. I will always have your back, WP. I will always have the backs of all of my true friends. It is so obvious to me who they are. It just pains me so much to think that you are made the scapegoat in all of this.
Thanks for all of your encouragment and support, to all my true friends! You know who you are!
Sincerely yours,
MZ
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Oct 01 '07
2:14 pm PDT
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Re: Re: In case others wonder why the comments don't seem to add up (Reply to this comment)
by dimeuhday
Very nicely said. I hope this brings peace to the table. I really do.
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Oct 01 '07
1:26 pm PDT
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I fully support you, William... (Reply to this comment)
by davidp24
...as you have supported me when I was bombarded with "trolling" comments from DF. Hopefully, it will all work out. I now sometimes comment on DF's reviews and we are on pretty good terms. I don't read much of his work, just occasionally. Looking back, I may have been the instigator in the bad vibe with DF, but he carried his vengence to a very high level, one I never expected. But I appreciated you supporting me then, and I support you now as well. Hopefully this whole issue will "blow over" for you, and you and "unnamed" will become friends again.
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Oct 01 '07
1:26 pm PDT
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Re: Re: In case others wonder why the comments don't seem to add up (Reply to this comment)
by milena_zepeda
Wow! Nicely said, {{{WP}}}! :)
MZ
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Oct 01 '07
1:12 pm PDT
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Re: Re: Wow.. (Reply to this comment)
by lyoness913
Hey Dusty!
I was going to email you anyway, I have a little bit to share with you.
I know it doesn't help for me to say 'It will be ok,' because quite frankly, it won't for awhile. BUT, you're not alone. I can offer you emails or phone calls until you feel better.
And, your poetry is simply compassionate and awe inspiring.
:)
Summer
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Oct 01 '07
12:05 am PDT
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Re: Wow.. (Reply to this comment)
by ddustyrose
Hi Summer,
I think my little piece of poetry made the headlines. :)
I know what it's like to have a husband who has lost a sensitivity chip and to be hurt so much that suddenly, the hurt almost goes away because of numbness. I know what it's like to be scared and worried and 'by yourself' and I know what it's like to feel the pain of divorce and the loneliness and the anger that goes along with it.
I am scared, worried and, at times, sick over it. This wasn't something I wanted to go through...not at this time of my life but there's no other option. There really isn't.
Over thirty years of trying have come to an end, or will come to an end and while I'm looking forward to 'peace and quiet along with a lot of other things,' why do I suffer pangs of failure? Wasn't 30 years of trying long enough?
It's just so weird.
I have a nosey question (email me if you like)...how are you doing now? How did you move forward and start over? Ooops, I guess that was two questions. :)
Thanks for the hugs...I hadn't realized I needed as many as I received.
Hugs to you,
Dusty
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Sep 29 '07
8:26 pm PDT
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Re: Re: Oh my. (Reply to this comment)
by ddustyrose
And, you've always shown me what a true gentleman is Don. It's something I'll never forget!
Thank you.
Dusty
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Sep 29 '07
8:06 pm PDT
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Re: We're with you, Dusty! (Reply to this comment)
by ddustyrose
Hi Smorgy!
I'm having a great weekend...my daughter and I had lots of laughs, shopped, and even stepped into forbidden territory as we celebrated her birthday.
I spent ages hand quilting a "throw" for her...cats on one side and dogs on the other (she loves animals). Hmmm, the "throw" actually turned into more of a twin size quilt...she loved it and all the work was well worth it.
When she flashes her dazzling smile, it can bowl you over.
I do hope you're having a great weekend!
Dusty
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Sep 29 '07
8:01 pm PDT
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Re: Sorry, Dusty (Reply to this comment)
by ddustyrose
Hi SHLEPsister!
I see a light at the end of the tunnel. I'm looking forward to standing in that light...basking in it and feeling warm again.
Have a great weekend Di!
Dusty
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Sep 29 '07
7:51 pm PDT
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Re: Oh my. (Reply to this comment)
by ddustyrose
Sue,
you deserve all the support you will certainly get from me and many, many others.
Thank you! My mail box was full of support and frankly, it was all rather overwhelming! I hadn't realized I had as many friends in the Epinions circle as I did.
It's going to be hard to properly thank everyone for all their care and kindness (and advice).
I feel very blessed!
Have a great weekend....I've had a wonderful Saturday celebrating my youngest daughter's birthday. :)
Dusty
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Sep 29 '07
7:46 pm PDT
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Re: Beautiful poetry (Reply to this comment)
by ddustyrose
Vasilis,
I believe there are better people in the world...in fact, I know there are. It took many years to realize I could surround myself with these people.
Remove the negative and concentrate on the positive. It makes for a lighter heart, and a happier heart with lots of sweet smiles to keep the cup full.
Have a great weekend and thanks for caring!
Dusty
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Sep 29 '07
7:34 pm PDT
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Wow.. (Reply to this comment)
by lyoness913
What a powerful piece of poetry. I am glad that a friend emailed me and pointed me to it.
I know what it's like to have a husband who has lost a sensitivity chip and to be hurt so much that suddenly, the hurt almost goes away because of numbness. I know what it's like to be scared and worried and 'by yourself' and I know what it's like to feel the pain of divorce and the loneliness and the anger that goes along with it.
I am so sorry that you're hurting. ((Hugs))
Summer
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Sep 29 '07
4:19 pm PDT
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Re: Oh my. (Reply to this comment)
by Don_Krider
Millinocket wrote: "I hope you don't let anything here stop you from sharing your feelings through this hard time - you deserve all the support you will certainly get from me and many, many others."
I'd like to add a ditto on Sue's comments, Dusty. You've always been one of the good people on Epinions and I wish you the best at this difficult time for you.
Don :)
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Sep 29 '07
3:10 pm PDT
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I would just like to mention... (Reply to this comment)
by milena_zepeda
...that I was personally told by a higher-up here at Epinions, whom shall remain nameless, specifically to take any issues that I may have with someone on the site to email.
It is outrageous, in my opinion, to publish private info, as such, in a public forum, regardless of whatever reason that you may feel it is justifiable. Rest assured - it is not!
That is all I have to say on this matter.
MZ
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Sep 29 '07
2:48 pm PDT
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In case others wonder why the comments don't seem to add up (Reply to this comment)
by smorg
It's because it is WilliamPinn's standard trolling procedure to leave snide and fight-provoking comments to induce a defensive response out of his victims before going back to erase his own inflammatory posts.... clearly to make the victims seem like the aggressors to onlookers.
Though those who have had to deal with such a spineless troll before know what to expect, many of us haven't encountered that before. So if you see such posts by a troll of that nature on a comment session. Take a screen shot of it... How else can other innocent bystanders who didn't get there until later realize what smear campaign is being used against our good and upstanding members?
Below are what Pinn posted to induce a response from Dusty, but erased in order to make her look like the one who made assumptions rashly.
O, one other thing. How galling it is for a troll to expect others to grant them the privilege of 'privacy' when he harasses them via emails? The emails you received are your property, not that of the sender. If you are harassed by a cowardly sniper in private, shine light on it. Warn others of what a menace to the community these abusers are.
Smorg
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Yes, betrayal does suck. (Reply to this comment)
by williampinn
Someone defames you, spreads lies and rumors about you, and the people you thought were your friends bury their heads in the sand, rather than tell this person that defaming people is wrong.
Then to make matters worse, they blame you and make you the villain, the scapegoat, when all you did was defend your honor. They side with the person who defamed you. Yet, if that person defamed them, they would blow a gasket! They would defend their honor without giving it a second thought.
They would expect you to be a friend and back them up. They would expect you to speak up and tell this person to cool the bratty behavior. And, you would do it, because you have honor, integrity and the truth matters to you--and more importantly, you are a true friend with courage.
But when it's your turn, when the bell tolls for thee, they betray you! They let the abusive person abuse you. Why, because said person smiled at them and stroked their vanity. Now they are blind. Only a hollow wind remains to return the abuse or grace that comes your way.
If they were true friends with the one who abuses you, they would tell him the truth so he can grow and mature, but they are not his friend either. They are posers, impostors and/or cowards.
They are betrayers.
Sep 28 '07
12:42 pm PDT
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Re: Re: Yes, betrayal does suck. (Reply to this comment)
by williampinn
You made your reply to my email public? Why would you do that? I tried to keep this matter private for your protection and mine.
I apologized to you and tried to respect your privacy. Let's not make the matter public. We both deserve better than that, don't we?
Sep 28 '07
9:54 pm PDT
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Sep 29 '07
12:50 pm PDT
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We're with you, Dusty! (Reply to this comment)
by smorg
Hiya Dusty,
I'm really sorry to hear that you're facing trolls on many fronts! I hope you are finding some respite this weekend and know that there are many friends here who care, matie (I see many fine Epinionators have showed up already :o) ). Our thoughts are with you!
Cheers,
Smorgy
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Sep 29 '07
12:33 pm PDT
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Sorry, Dusty (Reply to this comment)
by dianapinions
Hang in there as you enter this dark tunnel.
Wishing a SHLEPS-sister more tranquil times in the future.
Diana
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Sep 29 '07
10:26 am PDT
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Oh my. (Reply to this comment)
by millinocket
You know I always love your writing and I am so sorry that you're in such a painful place right now. I hope you don't let anything here stop you from sharing your feelings through this hard time - you deserve all the support you will certainly get from me and many, many others.
Keep on writing, sometimes it helps with the hurt. You're in my thoughts.
Sue
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Sep 29 '07
10:14 am PDT
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Beautiful poetry (Reply to this comment)
by lammet
is inspired by strong feelings. Although pain is not a beautiful feeling, this poem shows that you feel it strongly.
Cheer up Dusty, there are better people in the world than the one who inspired you to write this. Many can inspire you to tell a verse out of untold joy.
-Vasilis
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Sep 29 '07
9:32 am PDT
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Re: What is interesting to me... (Reply to this comment)
by ddustyrose
MZ,
When written, it was meant in only one way but it seems to be taken in another....read my comment to Pinn...your answer lies there.
Thanks! :)
Dusty
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Sep 28 '07
9:07 pm PDT
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Re: Yes, betrayal does suck. (Reply to this comment)
by ddustyrose
Pinn,
I just received email from you and it would seem you think this poem, Disorder, was meant for you.
I don't know WHY you think I would write anything about you and your feud(s). You and MZ made an apology to me and that apology was accepted.
Now, you may not believe this, but I do have a life outside of Epinions and while it was NOT my intention to make this public knowledge, to satisfy you and keep you from making a wrongful conclusion, I'm going to clarify something.
Read my lips...er...my words....this was not, I repeat, NOT written about you or anyone at Epinions.
I am married to a not so very nice man and am seeing a lawyer on the 15th of October to file for a divorce. If you've read any of my past reviews, you will have read a little about my marriage. This poem was written about him Pinn...it had nothing to do with you.
Pinn, I don't think I deserved the letter you wrote me. I've stayed out of the comment sections where words were hurled back and forth and yet, Pinn, I seem to be in your way. Why, Pinn? Why?
To the best of my knowledge, I've not done anything to you, or anyone else, to be the recipient of words meant to wound...or I am just extra sensitive at this time? No, I don't think it's that.....
I'll admit this is not a good time for me and I don't need, or want, to be in the middle of the road where cannons are fired.
I'm asking you in the nicest way I know how to let me get through this horrible patch in my life without unnecessary scratches from your keyboard.
I'm removing myself from one abusive situation and I'm asking you not to put me in another.
I deserve better!
Dusty
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Sep 28 '07
9:02 pm PDT
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What is interesting to me... (Reply to this comment)
by milena_zepeda
...is how many different ways this poem may be interpreted. That's what interests me the most.
Nice job! :)
MZ
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Sep 28 '07
7:53 pm PDT
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Re: Dusty, (Reply to this comment)
by ddustyrose
Thank you Shmoo! I thought I did too. :)
Dusty
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Sep 28 '07
11:50 am PDT
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Re: Wow... (Reply to this comment)
by ddustyrose
Hi Sunni,
Thank you for the kind words, and yes, betrayal of any kind hurts.
I really wish the world was a kinder place.
Hugs,
Dusty
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Sep 28 '07
11:49 am PDT
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Dusty, (Reply to this comment)
by shmoo1
you said this very very well.
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Sep 28 '07
9:26 am PDT
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Wow... (Reply to this comment)
by Jev04again
How often have we all felt this kind of betrayal??? Lots of times, let me tell you.
Well said, in a lovely way. Thank you for sharing! :-)
Warmly -
- Sunni
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Sep 28 '07
6:50 am PDT
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