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Very helpful (Reply to this comment)
by bpg2504
This article is very helpful, but it also needs to bring out the negative points, like the digital camera does not give good quality when the light is not good. Especially in the evenings. I can only get good quality pictures only during the day.
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Apr 13 '04
9:10 am PDT
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Re: All right except that... (Reply to this comment)
by aashok
Battery life is most dependent on reception quality in your area. The further you are from a cell tower, the transceiver has to amplify the signal to stay connected. This can severely shorten the standby and talk times.
I work in Manhattan and as such, bad reception was not an issue. Hence I had optimum battery performance.
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Oct 12 '03
3:03 am PDT
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All right except that... (Reply to this comment)
by sadaface
I agree almost completely with your remarks, since I use this phone for about one month now, and I really enjoy its extraordinary features, but I must note that standard battery life is remarkably lower than the announced one! I have to put p800 to the Sync station for charging at the end of each day! And I do lots of other things during a day, except using this combo cell/palm device...
Therefore I hope Sony Ericsson will introduce a long-lasting battery that will meet at least the levels mentioned in the relevant leaflet...
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Sep 27 '03
10:23 am PDT
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Re: Forgot to mention a few things (Reply to this comment)
by aashok
- Battery life is mentioned in the specifications section.
- The Pocket PC phone edition sold by T-mobile does not have a camera. The Siemens SX45 would be a better comparison. But I haven't been able to get one in my area.
- I live to get excited and carried away by technology. It is the biggest benefit of living in the 21st century :)
Thanks,
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Jul 13 '03
5:09 am PDT
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Forgot to mention a few things (Reply to this comment)
by humbick
Hey, just a quick blurb. I loved your review (though I think you got just a bit carried away and too excited with all the technology). I felt you entirely left out comparisons to the much cheaper and arguably equally featured Pocket PC (by Siemens for T-Mobile). Also, I have heard several complaints about battery life, and how it does not live up to the numbers that Sony Ericsson gave it. Great Review Though, Nice to hear some personal likings about the phone!
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Jul 13 '03
12:08 am PDT
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Update (Reply to this comment)
by knilaus
Thanks for the added info. It is most appreciated!
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Mar 09 '03
2:54 am PST
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Excellent review (Reply to this comment)
by Howard_Creech,  in Electronics
Very thorough and detail rich. Consumers considering this phone will be a large step closer to making an informed buying decision after reading this review.
Howard
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Mar 08 '03
9:01 pm PST
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Re: Some additional factors to consider before buying (Reply to this comment)
by aashok
Kris,
Thanks for bringing up some valid omissions. I have personally never owned the R380 and hence don't have a reference opinion on it.
Here are some updates to this review.
Talk time: up to 13 hours. The phone easily gave me 8 hours of aggressive talk time, with more battery charge remaining. I guess a bigger product means a bigger battery.
Standby time: up to 400 hours. I never get to test this because of constant active usage.
Ergonomics and my typical usage.
The P800 has essentially become my office away from the office. My job on Wall St requires heavy client contact and hence my mobile phones get quite a rigorous workout daily. This creates a perfect environment to evaluate mobile phones and PDAs. The convergence of mobile phone and PDA technologies is very timely and needed. People like me, who have been forced to carry a mobile phone and a PDA and their required accessories, very much appreciate the multifunctional devices being currently introduced.
I typically use my HBH-30 Bluetooth headset when using the phone functions. (A wired headset would do the trick as well) This allows me to access other PDA functions while I’m talking. I can take notes, set appointments, modify my contacts, take a picture and immediately e-mail it, etc. I have never been able to do that before. I do have to put it directly to my ear while my headset is charging. Initially, the added width and weight did seem a little awkward but not enough to cause discomfort or fatigue. Now I actually prefer the larger size. The bigger problem was that my ear and cheek were putting smudges on the touch screen. A screen protector fixed that problem. The best way to experience the approximate size and feel, is take an IPaq or similar sized PDA and put it to your ear.
About the removable flip, I prefer to use the P800 with the flip removed. When the keypad is flipped open or removed, you can pull up an onscreen virtual keyboard. This does the job just as well as the flip. I feel Sony Ericsson added the flip to make the device more user-friendly and cosmetically familiar to typical mobile phone users. The new product design process, starts from different points of views for different manufacturers. For example, Research in Motion started out by designing a great PDA and then adding mobile phone capabilities in the Blackberry 6710. Sony Ericsson (P800), Nokia (7650) and Motorola (A760) on the other hand, started out designing a great phone with PDA functions added on. Then there are the Samsung (SPH-i700) and the Siemens (SX45) products, which seem to have the best of both worlds. These seem to be in a category of their own. Call them the ultimate ‘Multifunctional Mobile Device’. (MMD)Hey, why not? I can’t wait till they are available here. Oh wait! My inner gadget geek just had an orgasm.
A Public Service Warning! Beware of camera phones. They may drop your IQ significantly.
One day a co-worker noticed some make-up on my phone. The explanation that ‘it was my wife using my phone’ came a day late and a dollar short. Now, I felt it only fair that my wife share my joys and my sorrows. (Just like the wedding vows said) So I took her SGH-v205 phone, took a picture of my posterior and set it as the wallpaper. She didn’t mind it, but now I am the butt of jokes not only at my office but also hers.
Thank you for your comments and criticisms. And please keep them coming.
Ashok
About Criticism.
Flatter me, and I may not believe you. Criticize me, and I may not like you. Ignore me, and I may not forgive you. Encourage me, and I will not forget you.
--William Arthur Ward
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Mar 08 '03
3:47 pm PST
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Some additional factors to consider before buying (Reply to this comment)
by knilaus
Thanks for providing us with an early report on the P800, which looks set to be SonyEricssons latest hit.
I think people considering a purchase of the P800 will find your review very helpful. However, I think that they will also want to take some of the following factors into account:
- What is the ergonomical experience of using the phone as a handset compared to the ergonomical experience of using the phone as a PDA? This seems to me to be a key design issue: The trade-off in ergonomical experience between the two usage modes. If you make the handset too wide in order to accommodate a nice screen, it will feel awkward to hold when talking but on the other hand, if you make it too slim, the screen will be too narrow to properly display the information that you need when using it as a PDA.
- The Nokia 7650 seems to be the closest competitor to the P800 perhaps with the Microsoft Smartphone as a close contender and the Siemens SX45 and the recently announced Motorola A760 looming in the horizon. What would be the P800's relative merits and letdowns in comparison with these alternatives?
- Also I see nowhere in your review a mention of the expected battery life of this unit. This seems to me to be becoming an increasingly important issue as the market moves towards feature-rich handsets that will inevitably impose a higher strain on batteries than the previous generation.
- And finally, the P800 feature of having a keyboard that may be removed to display a larger screen seems to be inspired from its predecessor the R380s. How would you compare the robustness and ergonomics of the P800 removable keyboard relative to that provided with the R380s? This information might give users a known frame of reference.
Rest assured that the above points are only meant as constructive criticism that may perhaps inspire an even better review. I realise that all of these points are of a relatively minor importance in relation to the substantial advice that you provide in the body of your review.
Happy writing!
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Mar 08 '03
12:40 pm PST
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