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| scmrak |
Posted: Nov 05 '07, 1:59 pm (Updated: Nov 05 '07, 2:05 pm) |
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Reviews written: 1361 Member since: Sep 27 '00
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RE: Hits Vs. IS
Quote: Andyman ...if it didn't match anything that's currently for sale by our merchants, it may not be a prominent new product anyway... What of those products that
• ARE currently for sale by vendors
• do match - EXACTLY - to products that are in the new catalog
• can NOT be moved because none of the products have a "write a review" link?
A specific example: Bridgestone Dueler H/T tires (also listed under "tyres") - there are 115 results for the tires/tyres, seemingly one (or two) for every size sold. Unfortunately, not a one of them has a "write a review" link. Where should the seventeen members who've written reviews - including as recently as July and August of this year - move them? BTW, according to the manufacturer, they're still made, although all SdC's vendors seem to be out of stock. Must be pretty popular...
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| berniez40 |
Posted: Nov 05 '07, 5:03 pm |
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Reviews written: 518 Member since: Mar 15 '03
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RE: Hits Vs. IS
Yes--I have many very current products w/very current reviews that simply aren't showing up. These reviews are no more than 2 months old, and the products just came put this summer. As we have deals w/many golf e-tailers I am completely bumfuzzled as to the absolute invisibility of my reviews.
Not only do I try to stay current, but I have managed to beat many golf magazines to the reviewing of said products. I viewed this with great pride as a feather in the cap for both epinions and myself. I was actually getting e-mails from people asking my opinions on products before Golf Digest and the rest of the big boys reviewed them. We were starting to look like we were at the cutting edge.
I would certainly like to see the return of the visibility of these reviews, and the continuance of our reputation as "THE GO TO PLACE" for opinions on newer golf equipment. |
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| berniez40 |
Posted: Nov 05 '07, 5:07 pm |
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Reviews written: 518 Member since: Mar 15 '03
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Hits Vs IS CNTD.
Yes--writing the latest reviews on the latest products---I am definitely in this for the long haul--ask my CL who gets bombed w/product links requests by yours truly. All I'm asking is that if I go to the trouble to research and review something, and put us on the map first---please don't remove my reviews, and our "First Flag on The North Pole" simply because our faulty GPS says said location does not exist.
hesaidatasmilinganalogicalextendedmetaphortypeofmoment |
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| KMINER |
Posted: Nov 05 '07, 5:32 pm (Updated: Nov 05 '07, 5:43 pm) |
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Reviews written: 1003 Member since: Jan 17 '00
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RE: New Search Stuff...
Okay, I'll pay someone a dollar to give me a concrete example from my own reviews of something I *need* to move and why. Feel free to email me directly - I am serious I am soo confused.
I'll even pay a bonus dollar to someone who can tell me how I figure out which link to review on a product --- at the moment I was trying to find my Aveeno anti itch cream in a tube - mine says the pink one with calamine, and EPS brings up 4 pages, and many tubes
:-) Kimm |
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| nc10 |
Posted: Nov 05 '07, 5:43 pm (Updated: Nov 05 '07, 5:50 pm) |
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Reviews written: 256 Member since: Dec 01 '00
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RE: New Search Stuff...
Quote: KMINER Okay, I'll pay someone a dollar to give me a concrete example from my own reviews of something I *need* to move and why. .. Kimm
You would move the review to improve people's chance of finding it. Looking at your review list, you have a bunch of category-less reviews. For example, one on Huggies Ultratrim Diapers.
If you search epinions for that product, you come up with pages of hits, but I'm guessing shoppers looking for a review on the product won't find your review, unless you could move it to one of the listings on the first page or two of search engine hits. (Assuming one of those listings is on topic)
Similarly, search for Burt's Bees Honey Lip Balm, you might want to move your categoryless review of that product to one of the listings that shows up first when you search for that product.
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| KMINER |
Posted: Nov 05 '07, 5:51 pm |
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Reviews written: 1003 Member since: Jan 17 '00
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RE: New Search Stuff...
Quote: nc10 You would move the review to improve people's chance of finding it. Looking at your review list, you have a bunch of category-less reviews. For example, one on Huggies Ultratrim Diapers.
If you search epinions for that product, you come up with pages of hits, but I'm guessing shoppers looking for a review on the product won't find your review, unless you could move it to one of the listings on the first page or two of search engine hits. (Assuming one of those listings is on topic)
Similarly, search for Burt's Bees Honey Lip Balm, you might want to move your categoryless review of that product to one of the listings that shows up first when you search for that product.
Thank you - that at least gives me a concrete example of what you all are talking about ( I swear I am really trying to understand).
Also, do you find you literally have to take every product you've written on and "search" it?
Because to me, my LUSH Angels on Bare skin shows a beauty category its in on my list -- but it's not showing when I search the product name. Conversely, my LUSH Silky Underwear review does NOT show it being in a Beauty category but it comes right up when I search.
Kimm
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| njchicaa |
Posted: Nov 05 '07, 6:00 pm (Updated: Nov 05 '07, 6:00 pm) |
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Reviews written: 738 Member since: Jun 27 '05
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RE: New Search Stuff...
Quote: nc10 You would move the review to improve people's chance of finding it. Looking at your review list, you have a bunch of category-less reviews.
So, according to Epinions, I should move my 200+ (and that is a conservative guess) reviews with no category individually to other listings?
And, beyond that, I should move other reviews to listings that are more visible with the new search engine?
Am I reading this correctly?
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| nc10 |
Posted: Nov 05 '07, 6:02 pm (Updated: Nov 05 '07, 6:15 pm) |
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Reviews written: 256 Member since: Dec 01 '00
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RE: New Search Stuff...
Quote: KMINER
Also, do you find you literally have to take every product you've written on and "search" it?
Kimm
Sort all of your reviews by category, and the ones without categories will be at the bottom. I was speculating that those at the bottom, without categories and unsearchable, are ones that shoppers would have most trouble finding. But your examples indicate its not that simple.
I don't warranty that moving those lost reviews really helps, just speculation. Maybe Eps will fix the problem soon. |
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| nc10 |
Posted: Nov 05 '07, 6:08 pm (Updated: Nov 05 '07, 6:17 pm) |
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Reviews written: 256 Member since: Dec 01 '00
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RE: New Search Stuff...
Quote: njchicaa So, according to Epinions, I should move my 200+ (and that is a conservative guess) reviews with no category individually to other listings?
And, beyond that, I should move other reviews to listings that are more visible with the new search engine?
Am I reading this correctly? I'm speculating why you might want to move a review. Not so sure what Epinions recommends. Unfortunately, I can't judge much better than you if that really makes sense in the long run. I'd like to think Epinions will fix the problem of the categoryless reviews soon, and minimize the apparent need to move lost reviews to searchable product listings.
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| anderclayton |
Posted: Nov 05 '07, 6:10 pm |
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Reviews written: 50 Member since: Dec 18 '99
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RE: *laugh*
Quote: millinocket
When the name of a product is as generic as "The Others", you have to expect that you're going to get a lot of results that are not what you're looking for - I like that narrowing works so well.
But generally if you put a film in quotes the first result should be the exact name of the film with less exact hits listed down from it. It should matter that other films have other words than "the" and "others" in their titles and instead list exact matches first. After all, who is seriously going to do a search for random words from a title? Essentially this is what the list is going after. All of the hits in sight on a search have the word "others" buried deep in the subtitle of the title of the... Etc. Essentially the word isn't relevant in the title.
Going for the idea that the Movies search is more exact, you simply aren't given any direction to actually find that specific search when you do the more general (useless) one. Personally I can see the titles I found in the search I did more recent but so freakin' esoteric as to seem pretty doubtful that they were the 'top searches' people are doing with the words "the others".
Ander
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| anderclayton |
Posted: Nov 05 '07, 6:20 pm |
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Reviews written: 50 Member since: Dec 18 '99
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RE: *laugh*
Quote: millinocket
When the name of a product is as generic as "The Others", you have to expect that you're going to get a lot of results that are not what you're looking for - I like that narrowing works so well.
Wanna bet what I get when I go to IMDb? :) I haven't done it lately but I bet that I get the right movie at the top of the list in spite of the fact that it is older. I'm pretty sure IMDb actually takes into account the "the" in the title too (which Epinions eggregiously drops).
OK. Did the search. The exact big moviematch is top with two films listed below it with the same words in the title but not exact matches. Then in the next (more obscure) set down it lists three other exact matches (one translated) and then a slew of oddball stuff in order of relevance.
As to the idea that the top results in a general search are somehow the best ones, the third place result is "Eugene Ehrlich - Amo, Amas, Amat and More: How to Use Latin to Your Own Advantage and to the Astonishment of Others" which was published in 1987. No reviews. There is a freepin' parking sign listed above the film for gosh sake. With no reviews.
I prefer using the harder things in a search because it is a real test of the system. You aren't going to get the silly stupid stuff if you search for stuff like "Shawshank".
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| njchicaa |
Posted: Nov 05 '07, 6:53 pm |
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Reviews written: 738 Member since: Jun 27 '05
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RE: New Search Stuff...
Quote: nc10 I'm speculating why you might want to move a review. Not so sure what Epinions recommends.
Don't speculate. I'm asking because I am not a stat tracker or a spreadsheet-er. If I am expected to move things for better hits/IS, then my participation may end and will certainly decrease dramatically. I have no interest in stalking the top links for each item or tracking my hits per day.
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| gamblin_man |
Posted: Nov 05 '07, 7:07 pm |
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Reviews written: 397 Member since: Apr 08 '01
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RE: New Search Stuff...
Quote: njchicaa Don't speculate. I'm asking because I am not a stat tracker or a spreadsheet-er. If I am expected to move things for better hits/IS, then my participation may end and will certainly decrease dramatically. I have no interest in stalking the top links for each item or tracking my hits per day.
See if your reviews are being picked up by Google. If so, you will probably be okay until the worst bugs are worked out.
Larry
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| trailhound |
Posted: Nov 05 '07, 7:15 pm |
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Reviews written: 653 Member since: May 21 '04
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RE: Hits Vs. IS
Quote: berniez40 Yes--I have many very current products w/very current reviews that simply aren't showing up.
One of my reviews that gets a lot of outside hits did not get any for a few days. Yesterday it picked up 4. Maybe it'll just take some time for the reviews to get picked-up in the search engines again. -Dave |
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| sleeper54 |
Posted: Nov 05 '07, 7:39 pm |
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Reviews written: 496 Member since: Feb 24 '01
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Why is you here..??
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It all comes down to why anyone is writing here.
If a writer is here for hits/visits, reads, click-throughs, possible IS ...maybe this universal writer does need to be concerned about all that and the effect (short-term and long-term) of recent site changes on all that.
If a writer is here to write, share their opinion, read the opinions of others, and willing to accept what visits come their way by whatever means ...then maybe they should just keep doing what they have been doing.
Me, I write mainly in 'media' categories. That tells you all you need to know about why I am here.
That is not to say I do have have some empathy for those of you that . . .'expect more' (and are accustomed to receiving more...) from your participation here.
...tom...
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| nc10 |
Posted: Nov 05 '07, 7:45 pm |
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Reviews written: 256 Member since: Dec 01 '00
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RE: New Search Stuff...
Quote: njchicaa Don't speculate. I'm asking because I am not a stat tracker or a spreadsheet-er.
Sigh.....Like anyone here knows for sure. We'd all like to trust Epinions to use our reviews effectively. |
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| roheblius |
Posted: Nov 05 '07, 7:51 pm |
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Reviews written: 600 Member since: Dec 13 '99
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RE: New Search Stuff...
Quote: KMINER
do you all come complete with cape? :) Kimm
Right now, just Andy wears a cape with an S on his chest.
I'm wearing an orange and yellow bandanna. |
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| phungus |
Posted: Nov 05 '07, 7:54 pm |
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Reviews written: 2307 Member since: Aug 31 '99
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RE: New Search Stuff...
Quote: roheblius Right now, just Andy wears a cape with an S on his chest.
I'm wearing an orange and yellow bandanna.
Do you cut a little notch at the top of your wife beater to make it easier to tear in half? =) |
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| roheblius |
Posted: Nov 05 '07, 8:00 pm |
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Reviews written: 600 Member since: Dec 13 '99
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RE: New Search Stuff...
Quote: phungus Do you cut a little notch at the top of your wife beater to make it easier to tear in half? =)
No need, brother.
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| joyfulgirl91 |
Posted: Nov 05 '07, 8:01 pm |
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Reviews written: 157 Member since: May 14 '05
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RE: New Search Stuff...
Quote: roheblius No need, brother.
Roheblius Man never wears a shirt at all. |
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