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popsrocks Original Post: Aug 27 '08,  12:17 pm           
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Post: 199508
OK help out ol' pops

he can learn new tricks.

I just ran into the new format for posting reviews that has the B I and spell check that I really like.

Problem though. I finished up and clicked through but it bumped me back because

You have an opening B without a closing B
You have a closing without an opening

How do I get out of that. All I did for bold was click and highlight the B

Wasup

pops

   
popsrocks Posted: Aug 27 '08,  12:20 pm (Updated: Aug 27 '08,  12:22 pm)           
Reviews written: 2132
Member since: Aug 25 '02
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Post: 199509
OK help out ol' pops

he can learn new tricks.

I just ran into the new format for posting reviews that has the B I and spell check that I really like.

Problem though. I finished up and clicked through but it bumped me back because

You have an opening B without a closing B
You have a closing without an opening

How do I get out of that. All I did for bold was click and highlight the B

Wasup

pops

edited to add I did not use the HTML tags of like I usually do.

Dang, I just lost my review.

I'll have to try it in that format again. Wish me luck.

   
pilarzmom Posted: Aug 27 '08,  12:33 pm           
Reviews written: 769
Member since: Jan 18 '03
Post: 199512
RE: OK help out ol' pops

Quote: popsrocks
he can learn new tricks.

I just ran into the new format for posting reviews that has the B I and spell check that I really like.

Problem though. I finished up and clicked through but it bumped me back because

You have an opening B without a closing B
You have a closing without an opening

How do I get out of that. All I did for bold was click and highlight the B

Wasup

pops


Hey, I had the same problem!! Grrrr! I thought it was great, but then when I tried to publish, I got error codes. Plus it didn't like my HTML in the title.

Not happy!
   
befus Posted: Aug 27 '08,  12:36 pm           
Reviews written: 741
Member since: May 21 '03
Post: 199514
RE: OK help out ol' pops

Pops, I'm having the same problems. In fact, I've not yet been able to successfully post in the new format, either comment or review (keep getting html errors, which is ironic...since I'm not using HTML tags in the new format!).

When I originally had the problem with leaving comments, some helpful epinionators on the message boards clued me into the
"remove your epi-cookies" trick. That worked, meaning it got me back to the old format for a few days. Today I seem stuck in the new format and even deleting cookies didn't help.

Sigh. Eagerly awaiting any advice you get on this thread, because I need it too!

Hope your missing review is not gone forever...

   
popsrocks Posted: Aug 27 '08,  12:49 pm (Updated: Aug 27 '08,  12:50 pm)           
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Post: 199517
RE: OK help out ol' pops

Quote: befus
Pops, I'm having the same problems.
Sigh. Eagerly awaiting any advice you get on this thread, because I need it too!

Hope your missing review is not gone forever...


I didlose that one but I loved the suject matter so I'll have fun again some time.

I just started another on the new format. I placed what I needed for a basic review and went through it and posted the incomplete review just to see if it would take. It did. I just puled it and now have it in draft.

At least I know it seems to work but I don't know what that HTML code thing was about on my lost review

pops
   
pilarzmom Posted: Aug 27 '08,  12:57 pm           
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Post: 199520
RE: OK help out ol' pops

Well, I got it published, but I think the engineers need to still iron out a few things. It's very frustrating.

First time I cut and paste my text and then highlighted to bold and italicize text. I got "unacceptable html" messages. So I started again. This time I put in my own html codes in the html code editor, and that worked, sort of . . . it didn't like my italics code. I also lost my line breaks.

Somehow I did get my italicized text in (I think I did it the regular text editor, by highlighting it). But I had to give up on the Italicized words in my title. Just wouldn't accept it.

And I didn't even try to put in any links. I'm sure it would have spit them back out at me!

But so far, I think we're on the right track. It is more user friendly, but I think some of us are so used to the old ways that it way take a while to get used to it.

Peggy

   
scmrak Posted: Aug 27 '08,  1:22 pm           
Reviews written: 1354
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Post: 199525
RE: OK help out ol' pops

I think that you were all posting as the software was propagating across the server farms - on one edit, you'd get the old review-entry window; on the next, you'd get the new one. The output of the two processes seems to be incompatible. Once all of the servers have the same version of the software, you'll be getting the new version every time.

-30-

rex

   
rkingfish Posted: Aug 27 '08,  2:10 pm           
Reviews written: 306
Member since: Jun 16 '06
Post: 199534
RE: OK help out ol' pops

Quote: befus
Today I seem stuck in the new format and even deleting cookies didn't help.

Sigh. Eagerly awaiting any advice you get on this thread, because I need it too!


I got so frustrated with the new format, I immediately deleted a review after nearly an hour's work.

What's up with:

1. No html code allowed in the title.

2. No custom links allowed.

3. All paragraph and paragraph headings double and triple spaced with all attempts at correction disappearing at the proofreading and publishing stage.

I deleted cookies in an attempt to find the original format, to no avail. Is there an owner's manual available for this experiment, or are we just expected to fly blind? Surely management is planning to offer the option of both formats in the future.

For the past two-plus years I've enjoyed posting reviews at Epinions. I spend countless hours engaged in the process. Thanks to this new format, the process has become more aggravating than enjoyable.

When there are so many aspects of this site that need attention, why mess with the one thing that works and we're comfortable with?
   
pilarzmom Posted: Aug 27 '08,  2:28 pm           
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Post: 199535
RE: OK help out ol' pops

Quote: rkingfish
why mess with the one thing that works and we're comfortable with?


And at the end of the month!! I have one more review to do for my ten and I'm hoping it goes more smoothly than this last attempt. Hoping . . . and praying!
   
gamblin_man Posted: Aug 27 '08,  2:34 pm           
Reviews written: 389
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Post: 199537
RE: OK help out ol' pops

Quote: popsrocks
he can learn new tricks.


Wasup

pops


A CLUE - The fountain of youth is in Florida, not Maine. Hope that helps. :-)

Larry
   
befus Posted: Aug 27 '08,  2:35 pm           
Reviews written: 741
Member since: May 21 '03
Post: 199538
RE: OK help out ol' pops

Yes, I'm also really frustrated. I've got two to post to get to twenty for the month and was trying to post one of those today. So far to no avail.

It made sense to me that perhaps I had been trying to post while the move to the new format was in process, so I completely deleted my review (after having saved my content in Word) reopened a place to post (and it's one of those laborious search engine searches!) and tried again. I'm *still* getting a HTML code error regarding italics in the body of the review: you know, you have an opening without a closing ...

I actually clicked on the HTML button in the new editor and scrolled through the code several times looking for errors. I can't see one! There was one spacing issue which I fixed, but that didn't do the trick.

Can we still enter HTML tags manually, even in the new editor? Would that be worth trying? I'm about to give up for the day, having spent an hour I didn't really have trying to make this work!

I already got rid of the bold tag in the title. That clearly wasn't working...

Beth

   
scmrak Posted: Aug 27 '08,  2:36 pm (Updated: Aug 27 '08,  2:38 pm)           
Reviews written: 1354
Member since: Sep 27 '00
Post: 199539
RE: OK help out ol' pops

Quote: rkingfish
1. No html code allowed in the title.
That's a permanent change. The html code shows up in search-engine listings (My Title Has <I>Italics</I>), and that's presumed to be off-putting to people reading the search results. If it confuses someone who doesn't understand HTML, they might just ignore it. I asked them to also outlaw tildes, but they just laughed at me...

Quote: rkingfish
2. No custom links allowed.
"Custom" links? as in target="_blank"? You are supposed to be able to edit those in at the end of the process by clicking on a link that says "edit html."

Quote: rkingfish
3. All paragraph and paragraph headings double and triple spaced with all attempts at correction disappearing at the proofreading and publishing stage.
I HOPE that you're seeing this - as am I, as is everyone else - while the change in the code propagates across the servers.

Quote: rkingfish
I deleted cookies in an attempt to find the original format, to no avail.
Gone, baby, gone. It's archived in case there's a revolt.

Quote: rkingfish
Is there an owner's manual available for this experiment, or are we just expected to fly blind? Surely management is planning to offer the option of both formats in the future.
No comment.

HTH

-30-

rex
   
popsrocks Posted: Aug 27 '08,  2:42 pm           
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Post: 199541
RE: OK help out ol' pops

Quote: gamblin_man
A CLUE - The fountain of youth is in Florida, not Maine. Hope that helps. :-)

Larry


wiseguy!

pops
   
popsrocks Posted: Aug 27 '08,  2:44 pm           
Reviews written: 2132
Member since: Aug 25 '02
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Post: 199542
RE: OK help out ol' pops

Quote: scmrak
I think that you were all posting as the software was propagating across the server farms - ...
...Once all of the servers have the same version of the software, you'll be getting the new version every time.
-30-
rex


Yes, as I mentioned earlier all seemed to work out OK afterwards.

Thanks for the info.

pops
   
almarsezstuff Posted: Aug 27 '08,  2:45 pm           
Reviews written: 3
Member since: Nov 05 '07
Post: 199543
RE: OK help out ol' pops

Additionally, a Member Center post just went up detailing some of the features of the WYSIWYG editor. Hopefully that helps a bit.

-Almar

   
ifif1938 Posted: Aug 27 '08,  3:13 pm           
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Post: 199546
RE: OK help out ol' pops

Quote: popsrocks
Yes, as I mentioned earlier all seemed to work out OK afterwards.

Thanks for the info.

pops



I wonder why when I posted a review today I had the the old format..I've only seen the new one once when I tried writie a comment and recieved the same message about the bold and Italics....

   
pilarzmom Posted: Aug 27 '08,  3:27 pm (Updated: Aug 27 '08,  3:28 pm)           
Reviews written: 769
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Post: 199547
RE: OK help out ol' pops

Quote: almarsezstuff
Additionally, a Member Center post just went up detailing some of the features of the WYSIWYG editor. Hopefully that helps a bit.

-Almar


But why were some of us getting error messages (you have a < b > without a < /b >, for example) when we were using the WYSIWYG editor?????????????
   
popsrocks Posted: Aug 27 '08,  3:46 pm           
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Post: 199548
OK help out ol' pops, again

Mmm, I'm working another review right now. The spacing between the bolded paragraph heading I put in changed when I clicked through. That was odd. I re-spaced them to a double space between previous paragraph and the next and now I'm getting the HTML code bit again. I cannot click through to post the review.

Any thoughts?

pops

   
befus Posted: Aug 27 '08,  3:49 pm           
Reviews written: 741
Member since: May 21 '03
Post: 199549
RE: OK help out ol' pops

Thank you for posting the tips in the member center. That does help!

And my patience was finally rewarded. On about my fifth scroll through the HTML code, I saw that the editor had somehow placed a closing italic tag after a new paragraph break instead of before. Not sure how that happened, except that I had created an entire paragraph (with a quote from the book I was reviewing) in italics. Perhaps the necessity for the two tags in a row somehow confused the WYSIWYG editor?! At any rate, perhaps it will help others to know that the editor doesn't seem to be foolproof and that human editing might still be necessary to catch the "errors" it's throwing.

I was able to correct the error and finally post the review. But it does raise a question. Is it possible, I wonder, for the editor to *highlight* code errors, just as spellcheck highlights potential misspellings? In other words, when we get that general "you have an opening this without a closing that" message, we can actually go into the code and see the potential problem highlighted? That would be a huge help. Just curious to know if it's possible!

I do think (and hope!) that in the long-run this is going to be a more user friendly format.

   
popsrocks Posted: Aug 27 '08,  3:49 pm           
Reviews written: 2132
Member since: Aug 25 '02
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Post: 199550
RE: OK help out ol' pops, again

Quote: popsrocks
Mmm, I'm working another review right now. The spacing between the bolded paragraph heading I put in changed when I clicked through. That was odd. I re-spaced them to a double space between previous paragraph and the next and now I'm getting the HTML code bit again. I cannot click through to post the review.

Any thoughts?

pops


If I drag the following paragraph onto the same line with the bolded paragraph heading, I can click through. Wasup?
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