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| jps246 |
Posted: Jun 27 '08, 5:13 am |
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RE: The latest word straight from the horses mouth!
Quote: trailhound Yes, that's good news. That's different from what they were told at the M n' G in Chicago, but perhaps the fix was not finalized at that time. I'll just take a wait and see approach for now.... -Dave
I've got my fingers crossed.
Jeff
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| puckmugger |
Posted: Jun 27 '08, 4:03 pm |
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RE: The latest word straight from the horses mouth!
Quote: popsrocks We're currently testing it and expect to have the fix out with the June Income share. We do not expect that Income Share will be out next week but rather the following week. After the fix is released you should see the hits on the reviews with /review/ format.
Sounds like good news to me!!
pops
Me too! I hope it isn't hot air.
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| popsrocks |
Posted: Jul 03 '08, 7:09 pm |
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Action on current reviews.
Has anyone noticed any action on current Sports and Outdoor reviews. I posted two in June. Both had the /review/ in the URL. One review of a Kayak picked up four hits and a plug in cooler received two. Though that's not much, it is an indication someone is reading those reviews.
Any other experience like that?
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| puckmugger |
Posted: Jul 04 '08, 8:19 am |
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RE: Action on current reviews.
Pops,
I have a cumulative total of one hit registered for June on the last 6 sporting goods reviews I wrote. Now, if eps would like to cover a car payment for every hit, that might be alright. Grin.
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| jps246 |
Posted: Jul 04 '08, 10:24 am |
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RE: Action on current reviews.
Still nothing here beyond my two advice pieces...all the others show zero and the couple I posted in June just show the member hits (which aren't even right).
Let's hope with the roll-out of the fix on the 7th, things actually do get fixed!
Happy 4th of July!
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| popsrocks |
Posted: Jul 04 '08, 4:59 pm |
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RE: Action on current reviews.
Quote: jps246 Still nothing here beyond my two advice pieces...all the others show zero and the couple I posted in June just show the member hits (which aren't even right).
Let's hope with the roll-out of the fix on the 7th, things actually do get fixed!
Happy 4th of July!
Jeff
On the 7th. Come on, they are getting close. Perhaps we shouldn't put on any more pressure.
The 7th month on the 7th day at At 7PM : )
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| puckmugger |
Posted: Jul 05 '08, 8:58 am |
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RE: Action on current reviews.
Quote: popsrocks On the 7th. Come on, they are getting close. Perhaps we shouldn't put on any more pressure.
The 7th month on the 7th day at At 7PM : )
pops
I guess we should be glad they didn't do it in June then since it might have been 6/6 at 6 pm (666), eh?
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| popsrocks |
Posted: Jul 05 '08, 8:58 pm |
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RE: Action on current reviews.
Quote: puckmugger I guess we should be glad they didn't do it in June then since it might have been 6/6 at 6 pm (666), eh?
Scott
You got a point there!
I'm expecting more an 8-8-8. Even though intentions are for a fix in the next week or two, I know the've got a tough tiger to tame. I'm comfortable enough at this point to wait for it to be "fixed" correctly.
pops
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| puckmugger |
Posted: Jul 06 '08, 6:48 am |
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RE: Action on current reviews.
I wish I could say I was as comfortable. Of course, I'm not as diversified as you are. Money aside, I don't know if anyone is even reading my reviews at this point.
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| popsrocks |
Posted: Jul 06 '08, 6:06 pm |
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RE: Action on current reviews.
Quote: puckmugger I wish I could say I was as comfortable. Of course, I'm not as diversified as you are. Money aside, I don't know if anyone is even reading my reviews at this point.
Scott
No, I don't think anyone is reading most of the reviews in particular categories. I don't like it either. I have ton of reviews that are in limboland in Toys, Home and Garden, Restaurants and more. That said, we have dealt with this problem for the greater part of a year and I'm glad to see that management has given us an approximate date for the fix.
The way I see it, a week or three will not make a difference in the long run. Once we see views we will all be happier.
pops
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| jps246 |
Posted: Jul 08 '08, 6:42 am |
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RE: Action on current reviews.
Quote: popsrocks No, I don't think anyone is reading most of the reviews in particular categories.
The reviews are being read. I can find plenty of instances where I can document traffic going to the /review/ reviews plus the reviews with /review/ have moved back up in the google results. That means that the traffic is there.
Another reason the traffic is there is because site-wide, the IS hasn't tanked. If no reviews were being read, the overall income of the site would plummet and we wouldn't be getting IS.
It seems to me Eps has been getting a free-ride from our reviews - they are able to track the overall site-wide traffic going to our reviews (otherwise they couldn't be charging advertisers and earning the income), but they haven't been able to get that data down to us to show us how many hits we've been getting on individual reviews.
That said, IS is already out for previous months so we're out of luck there, but at least for June we should get the back hits and proper IS from what they are saying and hopefully it'll work normally from there on out (fingers crossed on that one).
Quote: popsrocks The way I see it, a week or three will not make a difference in the long run. Once we see views we will all be happier.
That's true - since I think the damage has already been done by allowing this bug to fester for over 3/4 of a year.
I'm glad that it's going to be fixed, I just wish it hadn't been so long and that there had been better communication earlier about the problems. That said, I think Eps has been doing a much better job at communicating lately. Makes me hopeful about the rest of the fixes needed around the site.
Jeff
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| puckmugger |
Posted: Jul 08 '08, 9:54 am |
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RE: Action on current reviews.
Quote: jps246
Another reason the traffic is there is because site-wide, the IS hasn't tanked. If no reviews were being read, the overall income of the site would plummet and we wouldn't be getting IS.Jeff
Interesting, because my IS has definitely tanked. (Less than 10% of normal).
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| jps246 |
Posted: Jul 08 '08, 12:13 pm |
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RE: Action on current reviews.
Quote: puckmugger Interesting, because my IS has definitely tanked. (Less than 10% of normal).
Scott
Site-wide it hasn't tanked though. If you have all your reviews in one of the dead categories, then your IS is basically dead, but if you've got a fairly even spread, your IS has probably remained level, if not increased.
I know since October I've actually had a fairly steady, but slow increase in my monthly overall IS, even considering I have about a quarter of my reviews in the dead categories.
Jeff
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| popsrocks |
Posted: Jul 08 '08, 8:32 pm (Updated: Jul 09 '08, 11:00 am) |
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IS showing in Outdoor Sports
Though I don't show hits I have received IS on many of my Outdoor and Sports reviews.
How are you guys doin'?
pops
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| jps246 |
Posted: Jul 09 '08, 5:33 am |
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RE: IS showing in Outdoor Sports
I'm looking now - first glance I saw some.
I'll take a better look later today and let you know.
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| puckmugger |
Posted: Jul 09 '08, 9:09 am |
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RE: Action on current reviews.
Quote: jps246 Site-wide it hasn't tanked though. If you have all your reviews in one of the dead categories, then your IS is basically dead, but if you've got a fairly even spread, your IS has probably remained level, if not increased.
I know since October I've actually had a fairly steady, but slow increase in my monthly overall IS, even considering I have about a quarter of my reviews in the dead categories.
Jeff
Jeff,
My take is that the IS is linked to the category, not distributed evenly throughout the site. This would explain why (pre-bug) an electronics review would earn four times the IS of a sports and outdoor review that has more than twice the number of hits. I've always assumed that IS is based on referrals from outside sales and broken down into the respective categories. Maybe I'm wrong since it's all a big secret.
However, if my take is correct, the overall IS for the site doesn't really cast any relevance on whether my Sports reviews are actually getting any hits. It would simply indicate that things are going well in the categories that are still working properly. Having 85 to 90% of my reviews in sports and outdoors, I can definitely tell you thing have tanked big time there.
I've had a few reviews show 0/0 for hits in prior months and .01 IS. However, most of them don't even have stats for previous months after Dec at all.
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| trailhound |
Posted: Jul 09 '08, 9:09 am |
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RE: IS showing in Outdoor Sports
Quote: popsrocks Though I don't show hits I have received IS on many of my Outdoor and Sports reviews.
pops
So have I - about 1 in 3 Sports/Outdoors reviews showed IS, although none (that I looked at) showed outside hits. I guess things are moving in the right direction. -Dave |
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| popsrocks |
Posted: Jul 09 '08, 10:59 am |
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RE: IS showing in Outdoor Sports
Quote: trailhound So have I - about 1 in 3 Sports/Outdoors reviews showed IS, although none (that I looked at) showed outside hits. I guess things are moving in the right direction. -Dave
It's been noted twice on the IS is in thread that the hits will start to show next week. Yes, things are moving in the right direction.
How are your Outdoor and Sports IS results this month. Old reviews getting IS again too?
pops
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| jps246 |
Posted: Jul 09 '08, 11:05 am |
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RE: Action on current reviews.
Quote: puckmugger However, if my take is correct, the overall IS for the site doesn't really cast any relevance on whether my Sports reviews are actually getting any hits. It would simply indicate that things are going well in the categories that are still working properly. Having 85 to 90% of my reviews in sports and outdoors, I can definitely tell you thing have tanked big time there.
No matter what, Sports and Outdoors was getting screwed.
I just think there's probably more strings attached regarding the IS than we think - since for the last few months, IS for other non /review/ reviews has gone up - so the money that was going to all the reviews before was then only going to the reviews without /review/ in them. Now that some IS is coming back to the /review/ reviews, the IS for other categories and reviews without /review/ have come back down to pre-October levels, or at least that's what I saw looking through my reviews.
Jeff
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| jps246 |
Posted: Jul 09 '08, 11:06 am |
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RE: IS showing in Outdoor Sports
Quote: popsrocks How are your Outdoor and Sports IS results this month. Old reviews getting IS again too?
From the ones that I took a look at, the IS spread seems pretty normal to what they were doing this time last year - perhaps slightly below.
Jeff
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