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Excellent portrayal (Reply to this comment)
by andre98
I was watching this for the second time, at a perfect time, late night HBO, and decided to look it up on epinions. This is where film is important, because many people,like my wife, would not be able to watch this for long. It reminds me of a movie made on a similar vibe about the inner city called Menace To Society. It doesn't sit well with you but its undeniable that it portrays the way things really exist right under our eyes.
There's the hesitant member of the crew, the little brother hovering around trying to be cool, parents that drift in and out, oblivious to the severity of their kids' dysfunction. This is American life - and more powerful because it was from events that really happened. The fact that it's White and middle class as opposed to Blacks in the inner cities makes it more difficult to dismiss outright. Right in the middle of the big gathering outside one kid's garage, a mother comes by says "be careful with my car"... I'm adding this to my list, along with "Thirteen" for any parent that thinks they know their kids. All we need now is a realistic internet predator movie.
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May 08 '06 3:58 am PDT
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Re: A high schol friend of mine... (Reply to this comment)
by millinocket, in Movies
No kidding! He's the cousin, right? Good performance. Thanks for stopping to comment!
Sue
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Dec 07 '03 11:17 am PST
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A high schol friend of mine... (Reply to this comment)
by jeff_wilder78
named Daniel Franzese was in Bully.
Great review.
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Dec 06 '03 9:11 am PST
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Re: Yow (Reply to this comment)
by millinocket, in Movies
freakedoutparentdogg,
No kidding! It wasn't in my manual, I'll tell you that. I figure I'm OK as long as I can still lift them both - but that doesn't give me much time. Where's my apron..............
Sue
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Jul 18 '03 12:58 pm PDT
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Yow (Reply to this comment)
by sundogg99
Why didn't they warn us about this?
freakedoutparentdogg
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Jul 17 '03 12:55 pm PDT
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: If you mess with the Bully you get the horns (Reply to this comment)
by millinocket, in Movies
Mike,
But I already have Howie and Celine.
What, on your mantel?
Can I at least take Steve Buscemi?
Yes, but be careful, especially if you own a chipper.
Actually, I do own that tie.
Photos.
Hamgooglophilia? Gooburglamania? McDonaldaphobia?
I think you have the first two, I know I have the third one.
Ah, see this one I know: necrophilia!
I have to say, once again, that's just foul. It's not good to date historical figures, anyway. You just end up on the cover of The Enquirer.
Sue
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Jul 15 '03 10:55 pm PDT
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Re: Re: Re: Re: If you mess with the Bully you get the horns (Reply to this comment)
by mfunk75
Sue-
Turns out it was a package deal! Both mine now. You can have Howie Mandel and Celine Dion.
But I already have Howie and Celine. I'm looking to add some Yanks to my already Canuck-heavy stable. Can I at least take Steve Buscemi?
That looks alarmingly like you.
Actually, I do own that tie.
I think there's a name for that, we'll have to ask John.
Hamgooglophilia? Gooburglamania? McDonaldaphobia? Johnny, help!
Honey, I hate to be the one to break the news, but I'm pretty sure she's no longer going on dates.
Ah, see this one I know: necrophilia!
-mike
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Jul 15 '03 12:53 pm PDT
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Re: Re: Re: True Story This (Reply to this comment)
by millinocket, in Movies
Cheeky little minx
I try.
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Jul 15 '03 9:06 am PDT
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Re: Re: True Story This (Reply to this comment)
by Simply_Crispy
It actually gives me pause on all sorts of things. The least of which is the film.
Cheeky little minx.
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Jul 15 '03 7:09 am PDT
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Re: Re: Re: If you mess with the Bully you get the horns (Reply to this comment)
by millinocket, in Movies
Mike,
Fine. But if you get Steve Zahn, I'm taking PSH. It's only fair.
Turns out it was a package deal! Both mine now. You can have Howie Mandel and Celine Dion.
http://football.mocksports.com/hamburglar.gif
That looks alarmingly like you.
I just had the urge to Google for Hamburglar pics
I think there's a name for that, we'll have to ask John.
Oops! Is it too late to delete that comment?
Yes.
How about if I say that this only happens when Danny Zuko is flying the plane?
Nice try.
Or, better yet, not at all?
That's better, thank you.
I'm the kind of dumb guy who, should he score a date with the Widow Lincoln, would take her to see a play and get balcony seats.
Honey, I hate to be the one to break the news, but I'm pretty sure she's no longer going on dates.
still peeing myself, but for an entirely different reason
You should see a doctor about that, those laundry bills are going to start to add up.
Sue
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Jul 14 '03 11:01 pm PDT
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: If you mess with the Bully you get the horns (Reply to this comment)
by mfunk75
Sue-
I stepped back and tripped over.......Steve Zahn! Seems he's mine, now.
Fine. But if you get Steve Zahn, I'm taking PSH. It's only fair.
You are a punctuation thief. Punk.
Yup. Here's me:
http://football.mocksports.com/hamburglar.gif
(Oh wait. I thought you said hamburger thief. No, I didn't really. I just had the urge to Google for Hamburglar pics.)
This would be a type of occurrence we don't mention to Sue, right?
Oops! Is it too late to delete that comment? How about if I say that this only happens when Danny Zuko is flying the plane? Or, better yet, not at all?
I'm the kind of dumb guy who, should he score a date with the Widow Lincoln, would take her to see a play and get balcony seats.
-mike (still peeing myself, but for an entirely different reason)
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Jul 14 '03 7:20 am PDT
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Re: Re: Re: Re: If you mess with the Bully you get the horns (Reply to this comment)
by millinocket, in Movies
Mike,
Step back, sister. I got here first. He's mine.
I stepped back and tripped over.......Steve Zahn! Seems he's mine, now.
!!!
You are a punctuation thief. Punk.
I think they're hoping he'll touch down in a deserted field, nose first, at 600 mph.
This would be a type of occurrence we don't mention to Sue, right?
Who said it was an accident?
Ooohhh. Then I'm really sorry. Maybe you'll outgrow it. Yeah, that's it.
Sue
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Jul 13 '03 7:06 pm PDT
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Re: Re: Re: If you mess with the Bully you get the horns (Reply to this comment)
by mfunk75
Sue-
I shall queue it, I love Steve Zahn.
Step back, sister. I got here first. He's mine.
And I would have used the proper exclamation point, but it seems my shipment was sent elsewhere in error.
Wanna borrow a gross? I've got lots.
!!!
And yet they let him fly a plane.
I think they're hoping he'll touch down in a deserted field, nose first, at 600 mph.
Sorry about that whole peeing in your pants thing. Accidents happen.
Who said it was an accident?
-mike!
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Jul 13 '03 9:29 am PDT
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Re: Re: If you mess with the Bully you get the horns (Reply to this comment)
by millinocket, in Movies
Mike,
Even though it's relatively free of edge, let me recommend That Thing You Do! (note the proper use of exclamation point in the title), for a fluffy good time. Added bonus: Steve Zahn!
I shall queue it, I love Steve Zahn. And I would have used the proper exclamation point, but it seems my shipment was sent elsewhere in error.
He straddles the line, but I don't think he ever falls over the edge.
I saw him once on Rosie (shut up) and he was insipid to the point of making Rosie look good.
so is John Travolta
Quite possibly the dumbest and most vapid man on the planet.
And yet they let him fly a plane.
While I've never enjoyed Duchovny's acting (a term I use loosely), I have enjoyed his interviews.
He is very funny and charming, as well as quick on his feet, so to speak. One of the best things about The X-Files were those episodes where he got to do his thing.
My favourite interview-subject discovery, of the last couple of months, has been Paul Rudd (Clueless).
I only remember the guy from Clueless, and he didn't leave much of an impression. But really good interview segments on The Daily Show are just priceless. Sorry about that whole peeing in your pants thing. Accidents happen.
Sue
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Jul 12 '03 10:19 pm PDT
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: If you mess with the Bully you get the horns (Reply to this comment)
by mfunk75
Sue-
I haven't see That Thing You Do, but Hanks does seem relatively dip-free.
Even though it's relatively free of edge, let me recommend That Thing You Do! (note the proper use of exclamation point in the title), for a fluffy good time. Added bonus: Steve Zahn!
Tom Cruise is a bad offender
He straddles the line, but I don't think he ever falls over the edge.
so is John Travolta
Quite possibly the dumbest and most vapid man on the planet.
In sort of an inverse twist, David Duchovny does an incredibly good interview. It could either be said that he's an exception to the rule, or that his acting talent is such that you would expect him to do a good interview.
While I've never enjoyed Duchovny's acting (a term I use loosely), I have enjoyed his interviews. Maybe his acting career has been stalled by his overwhelming intelligence. From what I understand, he got his Master's in English Lit from Yale, before ever looking for the truth out there.
My favourite interview-subject discovery, of the last couple of months, has been Paul Rudd (Clueless). He did segments on The Daily Show and the Conan O'Brien show that had me peeing my pants from laughing so hard. Also, he's not a good actor. Which further proves my theory.
-mike
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Jul 12 '03 7:54 am PDT
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: If you mess with the Bully you get the horns (Reply to this comment)
by millinocket, in Movies
Mike,
I haven't see That Thing You Do, but Hanks does seem relatively dip-free. It's often the pretty boys who do nothing but giggle. Tom Cruise is a bad offender, so is John Travolta (a pretty boy to some, I suppose). In sort of an inverse twist, David Duchovny does an incredibly good interview. It could either be said that he's an exception to the rule, or that his acting talent is such that you would expect him to do a good interview. Personally, I think he's an exception, but I'm a girl. heh.
Sue
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Jul 11 '03 7:22 pm PDT
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Re: Re: Re: Re: If you mess with the Bully you get the horns (Reply to this comment)
by mfunk75
Sue-
The exceptions that prove the rule, of course. PSH is another one.
Yes he is. I also think Tom Hanks has a full head on his shoulders. Added bonus: he wrote That Thing You Do! (okay, so it's no Chinatown; but still, an enjoyable little flick).
-mike
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Jul 11 '03 6:59 am PDT
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Re: * (Reply to this comment)
by millinocket, in Movies
Jack,
This kept showing up on my Netflix queue as a recommended movie. Apparently they are under the impression that I really go for those sociopathic youth movies - and wouldn't you know it, it turns out they're right!
it's perhaps why the Director cast those actors in the first place
Eeewww. I hadn't really thought of it that way, but you could easily be right. In the Director interview, he kept saying how "right" those two were for the film. Yet another layer of frightening reality.
If you can get past the scary factor, though, it's a good film, I hope you like it.
Sue
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Jul 10 '03 8:57 pm PDT
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Re: I did happen (Reply to this comment)
by millinocket, in Movies
Marsha,
I wondered if you remembered Brad Renfro as being the gorgeous young witness (child) in "The Client" with Susan Sarandon?
I don't think I'd ever seen him before. I'd heard of him, but don't remember his acting at all. It's too bad he's going down the road of so many "child actors"
I would ask, though, that you not tie the children up facing our house, as their fainting from the heat around four in the afternoon just gives us the willies.
Not to worry, they're superglued to my person. So far they haven't managed to get in any trouble, but you can't be too careful. And I don't much like the heat, so we're enjoying the comfort of the A/C in the Hummer. That's why it's always running!
Oh, and we found your swimsuit, along with your falsies - er, I mean false eyelashes, underneath my car last night. I won't even ask how they got there.
I think that's for the best. There are children here, you know.
And did you know I tattled on you and Becky to Mike about wanting to steal his DVD player while he was in Canada?
I saw that! Turns out that Canadian stuff doesn't work here, anyway. It wouldn't play any movies unless we offered it a universal health plan.
Sue
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Jul 10 '03 8:50 pm PDT
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Re: Re: Re: Sexing in Cars with Boys (Reply to this comment)
by millinocket, in Movies
Becky,
I did find one this week, but it wasn't in the database, so I'll have to keep looking. When I find one, I'll dedicate the review to ya!
Sue
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Jul 10 '03 8:41 pm PDT
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* (Reply to this comment)
by jackai
In particular Rachel Miner and Bijou Phillips come across as lacking a true understanding of how horrendous this story is, and how deeply disturbing. They relate to the characters they play in a way that makes you question their own ability to behave maturely as adults. Its a little scary
I don't know how I never heard of this movie, but after this trenchant review, I'm definitely picking it up at BlockBuster. As for the above quote, it's perhaps why the Director cast those actors in the first place. Weird, but sometimes you don't need to act to get a part - and this seemed like the perfect case for it. Indeed, scary.
Jack
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Jul 10 '03 11:15 am PDT
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I did happen (Reply to this comment)
by katmar
to see this film, and didn't find it good enough to be disturbing, oddly enough. Maybe because I didn't care about what happened to any of them except Brad Renfro's character. In any case, you mentioned at the end about the actors, and I wondered if you remembered Brad Renfro as being the gorgeous young witness (child) in "The Client" with Susan Sarandon?
I fell in love with him in that, but was upset to find out that he hasn't done real well in life, as you probably already know. Drugs, arrests, drugs, arrests, etc. He seems to be a really troubled young man, and I find that more heartbreaking than anything in the film.
Anyway, you did a fine job as always, young lady.
I would ask, though, that you not tie the children up facing our house, as their fainting from the heat around four in the afternoon just gives us the willies.
Perhaps you should tie them in the Hummer with the windows down. That way they're out of sight, and we can sneak them food and stuff, and you won't go to jail for this so-called "extreme" parenting. ('Though I completely agree with it, mind you.)
Oh, and we found your swimsuit, along with your falsies - er, I mean false eyelashes, underneath my car last night. I won't even ask how they got there.
And did you know I tattled on you and Becky to Mike about wanting to steal his DVD player while he was in Canada? I thought it only right. You can check it out in the comment section of his "Vancouver" review, if you haven't done so already. :) (This is way too much fun, ain't it?!)
Marsha
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Jul 10 '03 11:02 am PDT
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Re: Re: Sexing in Cars with Boys (Reply to this comment)
by beckytcy
Sue,
I think I'm gonna need to review me a nice Lifetime movie starring Jane Seymour
Please do! Actually, I think Jane Seymour is really cool. Radiohead recorded part of one of their albums at her house. Although Dr. Quinn: Medicine Woman was pretty gosh darn hilarious.
Becky
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Jul 10 '03 8:34 am PDT
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Re: True Story This (Reply to this comment)
by millinocket, in Movies
Chris,
The movie is sometimes hard to watch, on many levels. I, comfortingly enough, didn't notice that particular one.
I hope these thoughts give you pause for thought upon your next viewing of the film
It actually gives me pause on all sorts of things. The least of which is the film.
Sue
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Jul 09 '03 2:09 pm PDT
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Re: Re: Re: If you mess with the Bully you get the horns (Reply to this comment)
by millinocket, in Movies
Mike,
Your theory is entirely plausible. One of the best examples I've ever seen of this theory in action was an interview with John Corbett. After enjoying Northern Exposure for a long time, I saw an interview with him. He was the most vapid, clueless dip. Yet when playing someone else, articulate and interesting.
Which doesn't explain the existence of fine actors who have engaging personalities and an ability to speak extemporaneously, like, say, Michael Caine. I have no ideas to explain that one
The exceptions that prove the rule, of course. PSH is another one.
Sue
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Jul 09 '03 2:01 pm PDT
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Re: Re: Re: ---------------- (Reply to this comment)
by millinocket, in Movies
Jack,
I barely recognized Stahl from In the Bedroom. He's just so mangy and repulsive so much of the time in this one and in In the Bedroom he's this golden boy. Talk about opposite characters! Oddly enough, I don't seem to bear him any resentment.
Sue
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Jul 09 '03 12:54 pm PDT
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Re: Sexing in Cars with Boys (Reply to this comment)
by millinocket, in Movies
Thanks Becky!
This really is worth a watch, if you don't mind the intensity of it all. I think I'm gonna need to review me a nice Lifetime movie starring Jane Seymour or something to get the sarcasm flowing around here.
Sue
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Jul 09 '03 12:49 pm PDT
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True Story This (Reply to this comment)
by Simply_Crispy
Based on the life and times of lemon_lime I hear.
Actually saying that, it was a pretty brutal story, definitely one of the hardest films to watch in recent times. Particularly when you see that girls minge... jeez, you'd have thought that she'd at least groom it from time to time. It looked like Chewbacca's face after a fight.
I hope these thoughts give you pause for thought upon your next viewing of the film
Chris
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Jul 09 '03 11:14 am PDT
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Re: Re: If you mess with the Bully you get the horns (Reply to this comment)
by mfunk75
Sue-
I wonder sometimes about those interviews. I've seen some people that I know to be fine actors be bumbling, babbling idiots in interviews. It's like they're out of their element, and just tremendously uncomfortable.
I have a theory about this. Since being an actor means you have to take on a series of different personae, the actor him/herself must be an empty vessel. There can't be a persona there already, impeding the progress of the character in question. This theory hold water when you watch someone like, say, Robert De Niro in interview. It is a torturous experience, listening to this man try to piece a sentence together. But when he's playing somebody else, the results are golden.
Which doesn't explain the existence of fine actors who have engaging personalities and an ability to speak extemporaneously, like, say, Michael Caine. I have no ideas to explain that one.
-mike
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Jul 09 '03 10:13 am PDT
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Sexing in Cars with Boys (Reply to this comment)
by beckytcy
Sue,
I think this is one of your best reviews to date! This film sounds fascinating and disturbing. I especially like that it doesn't moralize.
Once again, I'm at a loss for sarcasm.
Becky
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Jul 09 '03 10:04 am PDT
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