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by Horswispr, in Electronics
just about anything decent is a "steal"! A word from a pseudo-wise speaker reviewer: some non-audiophiles who might be shopping for speakers in this price range might be confused by the fact that "flat" is used in both a good and bad sense in you review. We know that flat is good when it refers to frequency response, and bad when it refers to the subjective experience of a lack of lower midrange energy, but some folks might not. I'd suggest replacing the latter "flat" with "sounded a bit lacking in the lower midrange energy that gives music its sense of heft and fullness" or something like that. But hey, I learned from your review. Thanks!
--Horse
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Feb 16 '03 3:35 pm PST
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by tennis_player, in Electronics
you are too young to remember the early beginnings of KLH. They were highly respected and a true audiophile quality company. This goes back to the early '60s. The original KLH Model 20 bookshelf system that included a sensitive FM tuner turntable stereo speakers. It was legendary in the industry. It was small, inexpensive but put out tremendous neutral sound.
KLH, today is just a name. Someone bought it just for the name. The products are nothing like the original in sonic quality. It is just another mass-market vendor.
Jim
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Sep 22 '04 10:22 pm PDT
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by dkozin, in Electronics
I was not aware of the company's history...
It is sad when a company that used to produce inexpensive and good equipment tries to pretend it still does the same, but in reality cares just about making more money.
I am quite surprised how much you have to pay to get good sound in most cases. It is sad that the large (I believe 50-60%) profit margins that stores make on the speakers, combined with the greed of speaker manufacturers, deprive people from being able to afford to have better-quality sound.
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Sep 23 '04 9:04 am PDT
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by tennis_player, in Electronics
Unfortunately, KLH is not alone in trying to cash in on a famous name brand. Fisher is another famous maker back in the old days. They messed up when they rushed into solid state too quickly and had so many returns that it almost bankrupt them and also trashed their reputation. But, that didn't stop somebody from buying the name and shove crap out the door with the Fisher logo and name on it.
Regarding the margins for speakers, I don't think the mass-market units have that high a margine since they depend on volume and turnover to make their profits. Yes, on the high-end audiophile quality stuff, it can be that high or even more. But, that's a specialty niche market and that always dictates or indicates a higher margin since the volume is much lower and there are financing/flooring costs associated with having them in inventory.
I was fortunate enough to be in the HiFi (mono transitioning to stereo) business back in the early 60s and those were exciting times. Back then, there was pride, honor and professionalism in the industry.
Jim
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Sep 23 '04 2:11 pm PDT
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by lindaja
This person's comments are unnecessary and have nothing to do with the subject at hand. Falling back on the personal unfavorable feelings about the audio industry doesn't help anyone learn anything about the KLH L853B speakers.
It doesn't matter if Fisher got into solid state too fast or too slow, the person here was not there to suggest to Fisher how to conduct their business. Lamenting their unwise decisions is a thing of the past and has nothing to do with the present.
This Internet site should not be used to vent dissatisfaction with an industry that has nothing to do with the product under consideration.
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May 26 '06 1:28 pm PDT
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by tennis_player, in Electronics
So you believe that background information is of no relevance when shopping for items to purchase or contemplated purchase?
So when you go see a doctor, you don't want to know anything about his/her education, background, experience?
Hmmm. . . . . . . interesting. In the two years this comment has been posted, no one else took exception to it.
I feel that any information about something can be helpful. You may feel that it is extraneous but it certainly doesn't hurt anything or anyone and some might find it interesting.
But, you're entitled to your opinions.
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May 27 '06 12:26 pm PDT
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